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		<title>By: Burnie</title>
		<link>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2005/08/29/goofy-death-threat-goes-on-the-record/#comment-2758</link>
		<dc:creator>Burnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2005 03:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stan, 
I got a little confused, for some reason I thought I was at the site of the ugly ass, george weinert, and I left a message for him that was not exactly nice under another name, you have since expunged it. I apologize, you are a person I have nothing but respect for and I enjoy reading what you have to say.
Regards,
Burnie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan,<br />
I got a little confused, for some reason I thought I was at the site of the ugly ass, george weinert, and I left a message for him that was not exactly nice under another name, you have since expunged it. I apologize, you are a person I have nothing but respect for and I enjoy reading what you have to say.<br />
Regards,<br />
Burnie</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Rood</title>
		<link>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2005/08/29/goofy-death-threat-goes-on-the-record/#comment-2732</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Rood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2005 00:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terroristic threats are criminal acts.  I believe in some states they may be a felony. Also, Stan is correct we need to address them because some people are truly intimidated. Therefore, I suggest that anyone who is subject to a terroristic threat and can identify the culprit and his whereabouts might consider swearing out a complaint.  There are still a few honest prosecutors and judges out there who will enforce the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terroristic threats are criminal acts.  I believe in some states they may be a felony. Also, Stan is correct we need to address them because some people are truly intimidated. Therefore, I suggest that anyone who is subject to a terroristic threat and can identify the culprit and his whereabouts might consider swearing out a complaint.  There are still a few honest prosecutors and judges out there who will enforce the law.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Emmons</title>
		<link>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2005/08/29/goofy-death-threat-goes-on-the-record/#comment-2723</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Emmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 21:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The incident brings up an interesting topic: What do we do about the Left&#039;s proclivity to play nice in the face of violent tactics? If we think back five years, it was ultimately a gang of thugs in Florida that shut down the recount and intstalled the petro junta. 
These guys don&#039;t play by any rules. I wonder if Americans have an adequate theoretical concept of the struggle we are facing? Maybe it&#039;s just me. I had a hard time taking Bush seriously the first time he ran. All of it: the current regime, the deluded &#039;pro-war&#039; protesters, the brain-dead monkeys that pass for anchors on CNN and Fox, the strange rantings of right-wing pundits and televangelists:  each seems so bizzare and almost funny. Yet, these people rule America. 

Sure, the rules are great. The Constitution is wonderful. But what if there is no authority to appeal to? We&#039;ll see what come of the rash of investigations underway in DC... but I am feeling a bit jaded.
 
Is there a better way to approach our struggle?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The incident brings up an interesting topic: What do we do about the Left&#8217;s proclivity to play nice in the face of violent tactics? If we think back five years, it was ultimately a gang of thugs in Florida that shut down the recount and intstalled the petro junta.<br />
These guys don&#8217;t play by any rules. I wonder if Americans have an adequate theoretical concept of the struggle we are facing? Maybe it&#8217;s just me. I had a hard time taking Bush seriously the first time he ran. All of it: the current regime, the deluded &#8216;pro-war&#8217; protesters, the brain-dead monkeys that pass for anchors on CNN and Fox, the strange rantings of right-wing pundits and televangelists:  each seems so bizzare and almost funny. Yet, these people rule America. </p>
<p>Sure, the rules are great. The Constitution is wonderful. But what if there is no authority to appeal to? We&#8217;ll see what come of the rash of investigations underway in DC&#8230; but I am feeling a bit jaded.</p>
<p>Is there a better way to approach our struggle?</p>
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		<title>By: Mooser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mooser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 22:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stan Goff I have read many pieces by you. This is the first time I&#039;ve been to your website. Thank you so much for all you do, and I&#039;ll be a regular reader. I certainly hope you come to no harm  harm, and I am dismayed and disgusted by these ridiculous threats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan Goff I have read many pieces by you. This is the first time I&#8217;ve been to your website. Thank you so much for all you do, and I&#8217;ll be a regular reader. I certainly hope you come to no harm  harm, and I am dismayed and disgusted by these ridiculous threats.</p>
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		<title>By: Comandante Gringo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Comandante Gringo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 10:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This guy definitely isn&#039;t representing some deathsquad or anything; but I think he does go to their conventions... Or at least their bar-B-Qs.

One important thing to consider here is that, in Latin America for instance, phone harrassment, little &quot;presents&quot; left on your doorstep, etc., are too-often only the prelude to something far worse -- i.e. these scum have to &#039;psych&#039; themselves up first... This is what this guy is doing here (attempting, anyway). Whether he has the guts to follow-thru on this is another question -- as it loox like he has a list of targets he can&#039;t even carry inside his wallet anymore. But this is certainly the reason why Stan Goff has felt compelled to post this tripe publicly.

And as for treason: this malignant concept should be ruthlessly deconstructed from a class vantage-point. I myself owe no allegiance whatsoever to the capitalist class, for instance. They are simply the class enemy. So screw them and their New World Order -- where&#039;s the barricades at?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy definitely isn&#8217;t representing some deathsquad or anything; but I think he does go to their conventions&#8230; Or at least their bar-B-Qs.</p>
<p>One important thing to consider here is that, in Latin America for instance, phone harrassment, little &#8220;presents&#8221; left on your doorstep, etc., are too-often only the prelude to something far worse &#8212; i.e. these scum have to &#8216;psych&#8217; themselves up first&#8230; This is what this guy is doing here (attempting, anyway). Whether he has the guts to follow-thru on this is another question &#8212; as it loox like he has a list of targets he can&#8217;t even carry inside his wallet anymore. But this is certainly the reason why Stan Goff has felt compelled to post this tripe publicly.</p>
<p>And as for treason: this malignant concept should be ruthlessly deconstructed from a class vantage-point. I myself owe no allegiance whatsoever to the capitalist class, for instance. They are simply the class enemy. So screw them and their New World Order &#8212; where&#8217;s the barricades at?</p>
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		<title>By: Home4Rkidz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Home4Rkidz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank-you, Stan&#039;s feminist friend, for insight perspective.</description>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some quick hits here, and then I suggest we close this one out... unless people just have a burning desire.

First.... the whole header for Weinert:

From:   georgemvw999@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Sedition and Guns Asshole
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Second.... let me put on my gender-hat for a friendly critique of supporters.

Just stuff to think about.  &quot;Whorehouse&quot;  A good feminist friend pointed this out to me, so I&#039;m passing this along.  Using this as an epithet devalues not a single pimp or john, who are the exploiters in real whorehouses.  It devalues the women, who ARE exploited, suggesting that the moral failure is theirs... a kind of blame the victim thing.   In fact, given my own background in the military I still have to think twice before using invective to make sure that I am not reinforcing patriarchal constructions.  On the same note, Weinert is not on the site (though I suspect given his obssessive-compulsive character he has checked it).  No sense in getting into a dick-measuring contest with him about who is the baddest... another reaction I myself have to struggle against... there is still a boy in me that wants to prove himself in physical conflict even if I am a small middle-aged man.

The main reason I posted was as a kind of insurance.  It&#039;s easy to poke fun at people like this, and ignore the fact that they might be loony enough to act on their bizarre ideations.  On the other hand, I can&#039;t see letting them rent space in my head, or allowing them to provoke actual fear.  So posting his stuff seemed a way to strike the balance.

I admit I acted on the adolescent impulse to fuck with him a bit, but perhaps if people are ridiculed for this kind of bluster they&#039;ll stop it.  Some people ARE intimidated by this crap, so neutralizing it as much as possible seems the right thing to do.  No one should have to walk in fear for their convictions, and everyone can&#039;t be expected to have a solider&#039;s fatalism.

I&#039;m done now.

Cheers all.&lt;/b3eb34f20a32323de0e50dfdf92f36d3&gt;&lt;/bay102&gt;&lt;/sherrynstan&gt;&lt;/georgemvw999&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some quick hits here, and then I suggest we close this one out&#8230; unless people just have a burning desire.</p>
<p>First&#8230;. the whole header for Weinert:</p>
<p>From:   <a href="mailto:georgemvw999@hotmail.com">georgemvw999@hotmail.com</a><br />
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<p>Second&#8230;. let me put on my gender-hat for a friendly critique of supporters.</p>
<p>Just stuff to think about.  &#8220;Whorehouse&#8221;  A good feminist friend pointed this out to me, so I&#8217;m passing this along.  Using this as an epithet devalues not a single pimp or john, who are the exploiters in real whorehouses.  It devalues the women, who ARE exploited, suggesting that the moral failure is theirs&#8230; a kind of blame the victim thing.   In fact, given my own background in the military I still have to think twice before using invective to make sure that I am not reinforcing patriarchal constructions.  On the same note, Weinert is not on the site (though I suspect given his obssessive-compulsive character he has checked it).  No sense in getting into a dick-measuring contest with him about who is the baddest&#8230; another reaction I myself have to struggle against&#8230; there is still a boy in me that wants to prove himself in physical conflict even if I am a small middle-aged man.</p>
<p>The main reason I posted was as a kind of insurance.  It&#8217;s easy to poke fun at people like this, and ignore the fact that they might be loony enough to act on their bizarre ideations.  On the other hand, I can&#8217;t see letting them rent space in my head, or allowing them to provoke actual fear.  So posting his stuff seemed a way to strike the balance.</p>
<p>I admit I acted on the adolescent impulse to fuck with him a bit, but perhaps if people are ridiculed for this kind of bluster they&#8217;ll stop it.  Some people ARE intimidated by this crap, so neutralizing it as much as possible seems the right thing to do.  No one should have to walk in fear for their convictions, and everyone can&#8217;t be expected to have a solider&#8217;s fatalism.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m done now.</p>
<p>Cheers all.</b3eb34f20a32323de0e50dfdf92f36d3></bay102></sherrynstan></georgemvw999></p>
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		<title>By: john3162k</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stan,

Let Mr. Wiener know that I&#039;m as left as they come and I have all kinds of nifty lead projectors. The 2nd ammendment is the only thing holding the fascist pigs at bay. 

We love you Stan; you and Cindy in 2008 for co-presidents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan,</p>
<p>Let Mr. Wiener know that I&#8217;m as left as they come and I have all kinds of nifty lead projectors. The 2nd ammendment is the only thing holding the fascist pigs at bay. </p>
<p>We love you Stan; you and Cindy in 2008 for co-presidents.</p>
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		<title>By: Home4Rkidz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Home4Rkidz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 06:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, George, you still think this regime in the whore, I mean whitehouse, and locale are telling you the truth. Albert Einstein has something to say to you: &quot;Democracy taken in its narrower, purely political sense, suffers from the fact that those in economic or political power possess the means for molding public opinion to serve thier own class interests&quot;. Did you know that although it has been considered illegal, this bunch running the show, shoving anyone with any needs but theirs and their wealthier than hell buddies aside, these self serving pricks(please do some research)used taxpayer money to pay &quot;news&quot; outlets TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS, that is a quarter of a BILLION dollars to control the population political, social viewpoint. You really ought to see who the folks are that are making megamillions from this rhetoric resulting in us going to war. WELL, WOW, GET THIS. IT&#039;S THE PRICKS RUNNING THE SHOW. THERE IS OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE OF LIES, MORE LIES, EVERYTHING THEY SAY IS. Yeah, the reason they get away with it is because it is so unfathomable. The rest of the country is now fathoming. 

Hey, how is it that a woman that just wants all the killing to stop(Cindy Sheehan) for lies and greed is making the insurgents decide they should kill more Americans ? Don&#039;t you see, that makes absolutely no sense, but you have chosen to give up your own ability to use rational thought. You&#039;ve let the war profiteering documented liars decide what your mental perspective should be: that you just need to keep supporting the war to support the troops, while they are being exposed to unspeakable horrors, BECAUSE THE IRAQIS ARE PISSED OFF BECAUSE WE ARE TORTURING AND KILLING THIER PEOPLE when they had NOTHING to do with 9-11.(yeah THEN some of those jihaadist came over to Iraq) If you believe that theIraqi did have something to do with 911, then once again, you&#039;ve been duped for the profits of the rich. 

Another thing, I imagine you think everyone in Iran is a bunch of killers wanting to attack America. You probably only look at the rotton things the Palestinians have done. There are two sides. I&#039;m not taking sides on that, but did you know that after our 9-11 horror, Iranian were marching in the streets in support of the Americans with the worldwide sentiment that &quot;we are all Americans now&quot; ?  Well, all that followed was an opprtunity for all those that could make boo coo bucks, Bush family included (look up Carlyle Group on your search engine). 

Look, I&#039;m giving you credit that maybe you&#039;re just convoluted in your &quot;self righteousness&quot;. Your warring spirit is grotesquely misplaced. I&#039;m also giving yo credit that you are capable of opening your mind up to logic.

And if you have a soul you should know you made an egregious error in judgement here. 

We are all so disgusted by what you&#039;ve done, I don&#039;t even know why I&#039;m bothering to reason with you. 

I had to admit to myself I made a terrible mistake when I believed my president, and cheered for the war believing all the while that we had these microscopicly precise weapons that only killed the bad guys. That was another lie. I had to acknowledge my naivite&#039; It took a while to wrap my mind around that reality. 

So, I&#039;m taking a chance that you have a speck of decency somewhere inside you to consider another perspective. Everyone has some decency inside them. Just connect with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, George, you still think this regime in the whore, I mean whitehouse, and locale are telling you the truth. Albert Einstein has something to say to you: &#8220;Democracy taken in its narrower, purely political sense, suffers from the fact that those in economic or political power possess the means for molding public opinion to serve thier own class interests&#8221;. Did you know that although it has been considered illegal, this bunch running the show, shoving anyone with any needs but theirs and their wealthier than hell buddies aside, these self serving pricks(please do some research)used taxpayer money to pay &#8220;news&#8221; outlets TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS, that is a quarter of a BILLION dollars to control the population political, social viewpoint. You really ought to see who the folks are that are making megamillions from this rhetoric resulting in us going to war. WELL, WOW, GET THIS. IT&#8217;S THE PRICKS RUNNING THE SHOW. THERE IS OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE OF LIES, MORE LIES, EVERYTHING THEY SAY IS. Yeah, the reason they get away with it is because it is so unfathomable. The rest of the country is now fathoming. </p>
<p>Hey, how is it that a woman that just wants all the killing to stop(Cindy Sheehan) for lies and greed is making the insurgents decide they should kill more Americans ? Don&#8217;t you see, that makes absolutely no sense, but you have chosen to give up your own ability to use rational thought. You&#8217;ve let the war profiteering documented liars decide what your mental perspective should be: that you just need to keep supporting the war to support the troops, while they are being exposed to unspeakable horrors, BECAUSE THE IRAQIS ARE PISSED OFF BECAUSE WE ARE TORTURING AND KILLING THIER PEOPLE when they had NOTHING to do with 9-11.(yeah THEN some of those jihaadist came over to Iraq) If you believe that theIraqi did have something to do with 911, then once again, you&#8217;ve been duped for the profits of the rich. </p>
<p>Another thing, I imagine you think everyone in Iran is a bunch of killers wanting to attack America. You probably only look at the rotton things the Palestinians have done. There are two sides. I&#8217;m not taking sides on that, but did you know that after our 9-11 horror, Iranian were marching in the streets in support of the Americans with the worldwide sentiment that &#8220;we are all Americans now&#8221; ?  Well, all that followed was an opprtunity for all those that could make boo coo bucks, Bush family included (look up Carlyle Group on your search engine). </p>
<p>Look, I&#8217;m giving you credit that maybe you&#8217;re just convoluted in your &#8220;self righteousness&#8221;. Your warring spirit is grotesquely misplaced. I&#8217;m also giving yo credit that you are capable of opening your mind up to logic.</p>
<p>And if you have a soul you should know you made an egregious error in judgement here. </p>
<p>We are all so disgusted by what you&#8217;ve done, I don&#8217;t even know why I&#8217;m bothering to reason with you. </p>
<p>I had to admit to myself I made a terrible mistake when I believed my president, and cheered for the war believing all the while that we had these microscopicly precise weapons that only killed the bad guys. That was another lie. I had to acknowledge my naivite&#8217; It took a while to wrap my mind around that reality. </p>
<p>So, I&#8217;m taking a chance that you have a speck of decency somewhere inside you to consider another perspective. Everyone has some decency inside them. Just connect with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 18:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, y&#039;all.  George is emailing me again today.  Here is his latest:

Stanley this is no joke - you would be well advised to leave the counrty or START PRAYING!

God Bless America, George M Weinert V</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, y&#8217;all.  George is emailing me again today.  Here is his latest:</p>
<p>Stanley this is no joke &#8211; you would be well advised to leave the counrty or START PRAYING!</p>
<p>God Bless America, George M Weinert V</p>
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