Why Gender? Part 1

Why Gender?

Stan Goff

“Feminism consists in calling attention to and eradicating gender-based oppression.”

– Iris Marion Young

“Representation of the world, like the world itself, is the work of men; they describe it from their own point of view, which they confuse with the absolute truth.”

– Simone de Beauvoir

Stimulus

I was having a fairly high-level political conversation with a Puerto Rican nationalist comrade for whom I have a lot of respect. He is a brother who takes his politics very seriously, and has even taken his commitment into a prison cell with him in the past. At one point in the discussion, I mentioned that I wanted to think about how a topic looked when I put it under a gendered power lens. He had been following my work, and he said, “Yeah, you’re really into that. What’s that about?”

Another comrade and close friend, an Asian-American woman whose revolutionary passion is white-hot and who demonstrates a tireless work ethic, who more than once told me that she isn’t sure she could be called a feminist and that while she understands my objections to pornography and prostitution as the commodification of intimate life and manifestations (material and ideological) of male power, she is uncomfortable with where the line may be drawn between this critique and the kinds of intimacy that might involve a non-commercial sharing between sexual partners of erotic material they themselves have produced for their own pleasure.

Yet another comrade, a white male around my age who was talking about a situation where an African American-led initiative related to Left regroupment/refoundation efforts blew up in people’s faces when gender issues within the group were raised. He called this a secondary contradiction, and that is the same term that the groups leaders used when describing the meltdown in a formal self-critique. I argued that we might ought to dispense with the notion of primary and secondary contradictions, to which he replied, “Are they equal then?”

Some days ago, I was talking with another person, someone who grew up politically in the feminism of the late 70s, but who was slowly pulled out of politics by work and family, and who now seems to want to re-engage. She admitted that her familiarity with much leftist thinking – particularly Marxism – was limited, though her familiarity with (radical) feminism was very thorough. She was feeling overwhelmed by the scale of the idea of defeating patriarchy (or andrarchy, or male supremacy – you choose), and almost felt guilty about being concerned with it given all the deadly issues of war and lethal poverty that preoccupy us all. She is very interested in regenerating many of the public discussion of gender that was absorbed in the reactionary interlude of the 1980-90s. What, she asked, was I doing about all this? That question was conditioned by her keen awareness that I am a “heterosexual” male (which I could challenge, but won’t here) – not exactly the demographic room where feminist allies are found in abundance.

I’ll answer her question first here, the same way I answered it over tea then.

The entrenchment of gendered power is so deep and multiform, and operating in so many dimensions, and it is so completely naturalized as to be nearly invisible to critique, that I can only do whatever I do in the finite circles where I spend my time. I hope I am not rationalizing when I say that those finite circles – the Left, if we want to put a political category out there – are also where I find the most consistent commitment to active, engaged political practice and reflection.

It is to the Left that this is written.

Mother Matters

No one is born a revolutionary, and no one begins life and the formation of their personality in anything except a social setting. For the vast majority of human beings, that begins with the bond formed with nipples in our mouths.

Our selves are first formed before language and logic in a deeply dependent setting where there is neither clarity nor focused intent. No political or economic theory has yet successfully accounted for this in its frame of reference. Politics is seen as the province of willful adults; yet every person engaged in politics is personally and powerfully shaped by the physical-cognitive-affective experiences of childhood dependency and development.

Not only that, this personality is formed in relationships with other people and the world. Subtract those relationships, and there is no essential “self” to go back to. This would imply that we cannot “go back” in the sense of willing ourselves against our own socialization. We can’t back out. We can only go through. And we can only know the world through that socialization, because there is no total “objective reality” available to us, but only the accumulation of what is taken in by our senses, subjected to learned means of interpretation, and remembered as experience.

Nothing is socialized so early or relentlessly as sexuality; and sexuality is internalized in deeply sensual, affective, and resonant ways long before we have developed the capacity for critical cognition.

That’s why I will return several times in this essay to mothers. Mothers and motherhood are, for the overwhelming majority of people everywhere, the original and primary source for the sensuality, the affect, and enduring resonance in the human personality.

Mothers, who are the first relationship for most of us, are themselves personalities who are carrying in them the history of generations of socialization, as well as socializing responsibilities for others. The relationship between infant and mother, then, is the infant’s first experience of community – of being in the world with other people – and in the fortunate cases, where a deep intersubjectivity operates.

I will rely on Jessica Benjamin to flesh out this notion of intersubjectivity – which is an attempt to transcend old psychoanalytic theories about drives and object relations.

From “Recognition and Destruction: An outline of intersubjectivity”:

“A beginning has been made with the introduction of the term intersubjectivity – the field of intersection between two subjectivities, the interplay between two different subjective worlds to define the analytic situation. But how is the meeting of two subjects different from the meeting of a subject and an object? Once we have acknowledged that the object makes an important contribution to the life of the subject, what is added by deciding to call this object another subject? And what are the impediments to the meeting of the two minds?

“To begin this inquiry, we must ask: what difference does the other make, the other who is truly perceived as outside, distinct from our mental field of operations? Isn’t there a dramatic difference between the experience with the other perceived as outside the self and that with the subjectively conceived object? … … the difference between the other as subject and the other as object is crucial for a relational psychoanalysis.

“The distinction between the two types of relationships to the other can emerge clearly only if we acknowledge that both are endemic to psychic experience and hence are valid areas of psychoanalytic knowledge. If there is a contradiction between the two modes of experience, then we ought to probe it as a condition of knowledge rather than assume it to be a fork in the road. Other theoretical grids that have split psychoanalytic thought – drive theory versus object relations theory, ego versus id psychology, intrapsychic versus interpersonal theory – insisted on a choice between opposing perspectives. I am proposing, instead, that the two dimensions of experience with the object/other are complementary, though they sometimes stand in oppositional relationship. By embracing both dimensions, we can fulfill the intention of relational theories; to account both for the pervasive effects of human relationships on psychic development and for the equally ubiquitous effects of internal psychic mechanisms and fantasies in shaping psychological life and interaction.”

Somewhere in this relationship between mother and child – with its sensual, affective, and cognitive development – the erotic dimension of the personality takes form, and does so in conjunction with the socialization of sexuality in all its forms.

According to Nancy Hartsock, “we should understand sexuality not as an essence or set of properties defining an individual, nor as a set of drives and needs (especially genital) of an individual. Rather, we should understand sexuality as socially and historically constructed. Anything can become eroticized, and thus there can be no “abstract and universal category of ‘the erotic’ or the ‘sexual’ applicable without change to all societies. Rather, sexuality must be understood as a series of cultural and social practices and meanings that both structure and are in turn structured by social relations more generally. Thus, ‘sex is relational, is shaped in social interaction, and can only be understood in its historical context.’”

Infants begin with our only state of pristine ingenuousness, because they have not learned to differentiate. As time goes on, the child will differentiate herself from her mother, and then there is the possibility of recognition – of the other and the self.

The fact that most infants are primarily in community with their mothers is an outcome of a sexual division of labor. And it sets up a situation for boys that, once they begin the socialization process that includes the demands of masculinity, they achieve their own “normative” sexuality by distinguishing themselves as not-like-mother, not female, not feminine. The demands of masculinity, as constructed in patriarchal society, transform the mother – his first experience of sensuality, affect, recognition, and community – into a threat to his achievement of masculinity, that is, the set of expectations imposed on him for being male in a male dominant society.

“Thus, the boy’s construction of self in opposition to unity with the mother, his construction of identity as differentiation from the mother, sets a hostile and combative dualism at the heart of both the community men construct and the masculinist world view by means of which they understand their lives.” (Nancy Hartsock, “Money, Sex, and Power – Toward a Feminist Historical Materialism,” 1983, p. 240)

Conversely, for girls, who will themselves often become mothers, that continued identification with the mother carries with it all the dynamics of being stripped of much social power.

Of course, a male-centric society lays this at the feet of the mother, when things don’t go well, instead of at the social forces that circumscribe her.

Anyone who believes that these pre-literate forces of the personality do not shape social thoughts and actions throughout life is in denial or delusion. The less understood these forces are, the MORE forcefully they will assert themselves.

Myopia

Society in general, especially men (but women’s internalized acceptance of gendered power is a powerful social reproduction mechanism), is not prepared to understand or struggle against patriarchy except for certain reforms – and then only in a very liberal and superficial way. While my own self-critique for how I’ve behaved in the past (and still occasionally backslide into today) and my fairly relentless critique of how my own political family of the Left has dealt with feminism and “the woman question” (I hate that term.) does not mean that I don’t recognize how much more advanced the Left is in its intellectual fluency on questions of power.

My critique of the Left on gender is a labor of engagement with cherished comrades in order to strengthen our struggle for the transformation of society.

I still cling to the belief that (1) the question of gender has absolute primacy – on par with capitalism and national oppression – as a revolutionary struggle, and (2) that the first layer of people, outside those already actively engaged on this issue, who must be won over to this position are those on the Left. This is not merely an ideological fit, so to speak; it is based on the fact that leftists (I suppose I could just say socialists) are not merely people occupying a space along some continuum of politics, but that they are individual people who are generally characterized by their passionate objection to injustice and oppression, and many have already internalized the ability to be self-critical.

(Note: I do not mean to imply by the above dissection between capitalism, gender, and national oppression that these exist in ways that are extricable from one another, or that the struggle against any of the forms of oppression should be focused solely on a single aspect. Further along I will argue with the notion of schematically applied primary and secondary contradictions, but for now, I will simply note that these are aspects of the same system. I am a monist.)

So, just speaking for me, my assertions on behalf of feminism (or womanism – a better term in my view) are primarily directed toward my comrades on the Left, and I am also interested in how to talk with feminists/womanists who were rejected and marginalized by the Left about what it will take to put the struggle against capitalism and the struggle against male supremacy back together again.

Gender is not superstructure. It is deep base. The only thing deeper is ecology.

The Numbers

The world population as this is written is estimated to be 6,480,778,798. The population of the United States as this is written is estimated to be approximately 297,726,011. It is estimated that women constitute 51.72% of that total.

This means there are around 3,351,858,794 living women in the world today. In the United States, there are 153,983,893 women in the United States. The United States share of the world’s women is around 4.6%.

India has around 437,707,750 women, almost three times as many women as the US; and China’s female population is 675,625,504, well over four times the US female population. So in just two countries, there are around seven times as many people, including seven times as many women as there are in the US.

If we combine Indonesia, Brazil, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Russia, and Nigeria, there are approximately 505,310,774 women – over three times the US again. So, out of the women living in the nine most populated countries in the world, with the US ranking third, women in the US are outnumbered by about ten to one.

Women in every one of those countries, including the United States, are economically and sexually exploited. The forms and intensity of that exploitation, however, is very different; and the greatest differences are arguably between the US and the rest as an aggregate, especially if we use available economic data to study these differences.

American women suffer from significant rates of domestic abuse, rape, sexual assault and harassment, and they are routinely paid less than men for the same work. They are more financially devastated by divorce, more vulnerable to homelessness (very often provoked by the need to escape a batterer), and there are very sharp differences between white women and people of color with regard to infant mortality, death during childbirth, and disease generally – a reflection of dramatic differences in both income and net worth. Studies show significant morbidity for eating disorders associated with the high social premium put on appearance as women’s most “valuable asset” (this is directly related to sexual reduction and objectification); that girls reaching puberty experience high rates of depression corresponding to social pressure to turn their attention from gaining mastery over skills to competing with other girls for the attention of boys. Female students in the US are more often ignored and marginalized in classroom settings. And young women who enter the commercial sex trade overwhelmingly have histories of poverty and-or juvenile sexual abuse, accompanied in the majority of cases (in metropolitan countries like the US) by chemical dependency and rape – this applies to the sex trade from stripping to pornography to prostitution.

Some forms of exploitation and abuse are regionally specific.

In Bangladesh, women who resist men’s advances have acid thrown in their faces, marriages are arranged for very young women, and older women who have lost mates are neglected often to the point of death.

In areas in Africa and Asia, genital mutilation is widely practices, ranging from clitoridectomy to infibulaton (removal of both clitoris and part or all of the labia).

I some regions of south and southwest Asia, honor killing is accepted as a valid practice against rape victims.

Female infanticide is still practiced in regions of both India and China.

Women are still denied legal equality in many countries.

Virtually all women’s prisons around the world are hellholes of sexual exploitation and rape. And rape is characteristic of almost every war. (Rape actually occurs in every society – even in “peacetime” – with brutal regularity.)

Immigrant women are vastly exploited as cheap domestic labor in many countries, including the US, Japan, and Kuwait.

Gender is definitely NOT a “secondary contradiction.” Mao Zedong, who was fond of using this term, especially in his essay “On Contradiction,” never discussed gender in this regard, and in fact exhibited in his references to nature the same masculine dualism as any capitalist, e.g., “Man’s conquest of nature,” which was a phrase that was used during the Great Leap Forward, possibly Mao’s greatest political (and environmental) disaster. (I will explain the association between dualism and masculinity further down.)

This same dualism was evident among virtually every socialist leader. It is reflected epistemologically in the notion of a double contradiction, arranged hierarchically.

I could describe instances of violent systemic male power for quite some time, but the point I am making here is that women are exploited and abused not just based on their national, racial, or class positions, but virtually all women are in some way exploited and abused as women. The point I was making before the catalogue of horror is that it is a mistake to look at women’s circumstances in the US, Western Europe, Japan, Australia, and other highly developed regions, and generalize their common experience to stand directly for the experience of all women. The majority of the world’s women are not only experiencing oppression as women at the hands of men (in this respect all women have something in common), but in conjunction with the desperate economic conditions associated with the underdeveloped world.

Failure to appreciate these differences led some women – and still does – to take the conditions of women in the core nations as the basic frame of reference for studying and fighting women’s oppression. At its broadest, this error was one of unrecognized and unacknowledged privilege. More specifically, it was Eurocentric. Even more specifically, some people have taken their own personal experience as the basis of studying the social conditions of women – often with that experience being one of profound class and national privilege, which included the intellectual cloister of the Academy.

The importance of so-called third-world feminism has only grown with the accelerated integration and standardization of the capitalist patriarchal world system under “neoliberalism.”

The fact, however, that the forms of this oppression are different is not adequate to dismiss the fact of women’s near universal social subordination to men today, and that this basic fact has been in force for all of our recorded history. The variance in the forms of oppression does not erase the fact that men universally dominate, exploit, and oppress women. This essential fact strongly suggests that the variance in forms has something to do with the articulation of gendered oppression with other historical contingencies – geography, historical development, class, national oppression, and – not least – adaptation to both acute and chronic social crisis.

The even more controversial suggestion here is twofold. Gender is itself a class system, based on more than merely relation to means of production, which attaches itself to and separates the biological sexes. And gender not only preceded class formation historically, it may very well have created the social template for class, caste, and racial-national oppressions, as well as the metaphor for the exploitation of the natural word that has led us into an ecological catastrophe.

Gender

Gender – herein meaning a system of oppressive social power exercised by men over women – is not separate from other social power dynamics, i.e., class and racial-national oppression, nor is it reducible to them or subsumable within them.

Two other key characteristics of gendered power make it both deeper and more difficult to confront than other social struggles against oppressive power.

First, we are all socialized into our most personal and intimate understandings of gender from birth, and so gender and the personal, emotional, and sensual experience of gender is far more deeply conditioned, and far less susceptible to critical interpretation and intervention. Gender is more deeply naturalized; that is, it is experienced as something that is more axiomatic – like a law of nature – than latter socializations into nation and class.

Second, this system of power is erotically inscribed, and so there are many instances where the oppressed are socialized to experience physical attraction to the oppressor – often cued by the same behaviors and attitudes that constitute men as a dominant gendered class.

Given what I said above, that the first layer of people who should be won over to a deeper analysis of gendered oppression are the Left – both women and men – and among them the Left intelligentsia (academic and organic) and revolutionary activists, in order to grapple with the difficult problems in describing gendered oppression – problems in the philosophical dimensions of semiotics, linguistics, epistemology, ontology, and phenomenology – it seems appropriate to begin there. Gender as a material social system is powerfully reproduced in these dimensions. Identifying the ways in which gender ideology operates is an essential rooting out process, that begins from the outside in order to work our way nearer the center.

Consciousness

I will try a biological-anatomical metaphor for consciousness (itself a fairly paradoxical subject).

Symbols can be seen, albeit only analytically, as the cell forms of meaning within linguistics, which are comparable to organic tissues, which is then constitutive of ideas (organs), constitutive of epistemology (organ systems), existing in a coherent system of inter-referential and mutually-supporting feedback loops called world view, and sometimes, ideology, (organism) that then relates to practice (environment) in a dialectical (mutually constituting) way.

Using mothering as an example – which is an idea freighted with symbolism, with meaning, constructed linguistically out of a phallocentric milieu, often reflexively idealized (within the whore-moddonna paradigm), integrated into every ideology in way that is deeply emotionally resonant – the point of being immune to criticism – and actually inscribed in our psychology, our culture, our property relations, and the law.

Semiotics

Wikipedia describes semiotics thus:

“Semiotics – or semiology – is the study of signs, both individually and grouped in sign systems, and includes the study of how meaning is made and understood.”

Mothering again.

Mothering is absolutely essential for the reproduction of capitalist patriarchy, yet the idiom of the market as well as the idiom of male power completely devalue it. Giving without the expectation of an exchange – value for value – is considered irrational. In gender relations, male activity in the “public” is garlanded with prestige (even when much of it is ludicrous to the point of self-satirizaton), while “mere” mothering is seen as somehow mundane.

http://www.gift-economy.com/articlesAndEssays/motherOrMarket.html

Genevieve Vaughn, writing in “Feminist Semiotics for Social Change: the Mother or the Market,” connects feminist-womanist and historical materialist interpretations, when she notes:

“Exchange value is gift value split off from use value and transformed into a relation of abstract qualitative similarity of each commodity with all the other commodities on the market. In fact all the commodities that are produced for the purpose of exchange have in common the abstract quality that they are not gifts, and the work that produces them may be seen as having that same abstract quality. Exchange value is the reciprocal assessment of all the commodities on the market regarding the quantity of abstract labor value they contain. Exchange creates a totalizing exclusive category into which gifts do not enter (at least overtly). The exchange value of a present commodity therefore establishes a potential relation of the exchanger to the commodity of the other which was previously sold and to the future commodity which s/he will eventually buy with the money. The ‘gift’ of exchange value is just the gift of knowledge about the commodity – of what it is in relation to all the other commodities – the exchange value satisfies that socially based, abstract need to know which is actually a need of all the exchangers regarding all potential sales and acquisitions since each will give up her or his own commodity only for one with an equivalent value. For gift giving, the implication of value is ‘I give something to you, therefore you are valuable to me.’ There is a corollary to this however: ‘I give something to you and not to someone else, so you are valuable to me – more than they are’. This also has the effect of giving me the power over the decision. For exchange value the implication is: “I exchange with you for something, so it is valuable to me (while you are not)” Here also the exchanger is valuable because s/he the arbiter of value. Giving to satisfy needs transfers value to the other, while withholding the gift or even the exchange, gives value (in this case power) to the self.”

Continuing with semiotics, using an excerpt from philosopher Marilyn Frye, from her superlative essay, “To See and Be Seen: The Politics of Reality”:

“Reality is that which is.

“The English word ‘real’ stems from a word that meant regal, of or pertaining to the king.

“‘Real’ in Spanish means royal.

“Real property is that which is proper to the king.

“Reality is that which pertains to the one in power, is that over which he has power, is his domain, his estate, is proper to him.

“The ideal king reigns over everything as far as the eye can see. His eye. What he cannot see is not royal, not real.

“He sees what is proper to him.

“To be real is to be visible to the king>

“The king is in his counting house.”

What I will add to Frye, to make a linguistic point is that liberal law, which emerged after the loss of aristocratic power to the bourgeoisie, in defining a dualism between public and private life, described a “right” of privacy as pertaining to every MAN as a king, i.e., “a man’s home is his castle” (his realm). This immunized the private realm, where men prevailed against women, as MEN and WOMEN, from intervention by the public realm – the liberal state.

The old is incorporated into the body of the new. (We still “give away” brides at weddings.)

Linguistics

Note how symbols, pregnant with affective meaning, are combined into linguistic representations that form ideology. Ideology naturalizes and conceals power relations, making language itself profoundly political.

How can we blithely accept that so-called gender-neutral appellations like Man (to represent homo sapiens) are somehow benign? Generic man, mankind, he, and him are definitely not content neutral, any more than the news you watch on television is “objective.”

God is a He; Jesus, Mohammed, Abraham, Buddha, et al… all He’s. Women’s voices in history (his story), when they are heard at all, are often relegated to what Andrea Nye called “the impotent marginality of poetry and hysteria.”

So we not only see the primacy of the He in our linguistic practices, but the epistemology of which these practices are the working parts is male-centered in a way that constructs masculinity – a male archetype – then makes it the only legitimate point of view… to which I will return in a moment.

Nye says, commenting on Luce Irigary’s “The Sex Which is Not One”:

“Language is not a neutral instrument that is used to state a variety of facts and arguments nor is style an embellishment that must be avoided in fact-stating language. What passes for factual objectivity often amounts to obsessive repetition. In a description that could easily be applied to much contemporary analytic philosophy, she [Irigary] describes the dangers:

[quoting Irigary] ‘If we continue to speak the same language, we are going to reproduce the same story. Begin again the same stories . . . same discussions, same disputes, same dramas. Same attraction, same ruptures. Same difficulties, impossible to repair. Same . . . Same . . . Always the same.’ [end Irigary quote]

“Such a language, Irigary continues, passes over our [women’s] bodies, our heads, loses itself and loses us. The same problems repeat themselves – other minds, reference truth. Philosophy as a ‘theoretical discipline’ becomes a skirmishing according to established rules (or in some recent formulations, a ‘play’) that has no direct bearing on the struggle between the rich and poor, colonist and colonized, men and women.”

I have to wonder, as an aside, how much sectarianism on the Left is perpetuated linguistically, as Irigary said, by remaking the “same discussions, same disputes, same dramas.”

Epistemology

From Wikipedia:

“Epistemology, from the Greek words episteme (knowledge) and logos (word/speech) is the branch of philosophy that deals with the nature, origin and scope of knowledge. Historically, it has been one of the most investigated and most debated of all philosophical subjects. Much of this debate has focused on analyzing the nature and variety of knowledge and how it relates to similar notions such as truth and belief. Much of this discussion concerns the justification of knowledge claims.

“Not surprisingly, the way that knowledge claims are justified both leads to and depends on the general approach to philosophy one adopts. Thus, philosophers have developed a range of epistemological theories to accompany their general philosophical positions. More recent studies have re-written centuries-old assumptions, and the field of epistemology continues to be vibrant and dynamic.”

So, moving from linguistics to epistemology – not implying some straight line, but written language like this proceeds linearly – let’s take a moment to examine knowledge claims from the standpoint of gendered power.

Many of the people I associate with see themselves as socialists, and many of them come out of a Marxist tradition of social inquiry and activism. This method began with a powerful critique of bourgeois epistemology – of its reductive reasoning, its empiricism, its tendency to compartmentalize, and its failure to attend to relationships between phenomena. In particular, there was an emphasis on exposing the myth of objectivity that characterized the most powerful episteme in the bourgeois cosmos – the practice of science. Marxism did not reject the efficacy of science. Clearly, the scientific method enabled people to exert higher and higher levels of control over what we generally think of as nature – which was objectified. But Marxists said that even the decisions about which questions to subject to scientific inquiry are made with a point of view, a goal, and therefore were conditioned by the class interests of those who financed or practiced science. Marxists also paid special attention to the relation between the actions of human beings and the development of ideas, and to how human activity changed the environment, which once changed in turn altered the future actions of humans. This attention to interactions was schematized using Hegel’s idea of the dialectic, but Marx rejected the notion that ideas appeared whereupon they were acted out upon the environment. Reversing that causal relation, Marx said that our lived experience – our activity – give rise to ideas that are reflections of that experience.

This was an important challenge to ruling class power, because it exposed the fact that much of what was presented as “natural” was in fact not natural at all, but constructed by social relations characterized by the exercise of power. What stood for knowledge, claimed Marx, was actually ideology – a way of knowing (an epistemology) that simultaneously portrayed existing arrangements of social power to be natural (or god-given) and therefore out of reach of political interventions, and that concealed the fact that one class systematically exercised violent, exploitative power over another.

One aspect of Marxist epistemology, however, that was not effectively challenged – and the aspect of dominant ideology that has its roots in gendered power – is dualism (discussed in detail further down).

Phenomenology

The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy defines phenomenology as “the study of structures of consciousness as experienced from the first-person point of view. The central structure of an experience is its intentionality, its being directed toward something, as it is an experience of or about some object. An experience is directed toward an object by virtue of its content or meaning (which represents the object) together with appropriate enabling conditions.”

Though the Left, and here I refer explicitly to socialist and national liberation revolutionaries, has been ruthless in its critique of bourgeois science, exposing it for its pretensions of objectivity, it has largely failed to connect scientific discourse and practice with is gender dimension – it is male science, too. Yet the application of such bizarre reconstructions as “the science of Marxism-Leninism” to real politics was experienced by male revolutionaries as a Son’s rebellion against the Father – led by men against men.

The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy further describes phenomenology: “Phenomenology as a discipline is distinct from but related to other key disciplines in philosophy, such as ontology…”

Ontology

Ontology is the so-called “study” of the nature of being and existence.

In Caroline Whitbeck’s “A Different Reality: Feminist Ontology,” she used this familial model to describe male rebellion and female exclusion even in revolutionary politics.

“Masculist dualist ontology has been developed two related lines. The first, and older, line of development generates patriarchy in the strict sense – the rule of the fathers, with its hierarchical organization of political life modeled on the organization of the patriarchal family. This view is followed, and to some extent is replaced by individualism, with what might be called ‘the rule of the sons.’ The resulting view of family, political, and psychic life, however, presupposes the preceding patriarchal view.

“The sisters are rarely mentioned in the theories of liberation associated with the rebellion of the sons against the father… The absence of any reference to the sisters [except as “our women” –SG] symbolizes a key feature of individualism; that is, individualism reflects the concerns of a certain group of men, those whose primary experience of domination was at the hands of a father or monarch…”

Whitbeck’s example of dualism that permits the separation of “patriarchy” and “individualism” without making a fundamental challenge to male power serves an analogue for the present-day false dichotomy posed by (the real) petit bourgeois liberal (mostly white) feminists who see women’s struggle as one of libertarianism opposed to religious conservatism. The argument of libertarian feminists against theocratic conservatism itself is based on the complete acceptance of the liberal social and political framework, which posits formal, abstract equality with women while immunizing existing institutions and cultural practices from any disruption of non-abstract male power. Liberalism and conservatism both preserve male power, in spite of their differences.

Abstraction

Whitbeck moves from this critique of the continuity of male power through social struggles to the issue of ethics, which is steeped in liberal (patriarchal) ideology.

Her discussion of ethics provides a good segway into an examination of the “rational actor” trope in capitalist patriarchy, which is a liberal and contingent form of gendered dualism, that makes each a subject against all others, who are objects.

Whitbeck refers to John Ladd’s challenge to the dominant notion of ethics, in his essay “he Distinction Between Rights and Responsibilities: A Defense.” This challenge is mounted from previous challenges to the account of ontology of a Hobbesian war of all against all and social Darwinism, as well as a challenge to the social atomization inhering in most positivist-liberal accounts of society. This atomization thesis is what led Whitbeck to refer to liberalism as “individualism.”

Whitbeck and Ladd’s challenge is directed at “rights-based” ethics, which is predicated on he Darwinian-capitalist-masculinist account of ontology, from which the dominant ideology concludes the existence of the “rational Man” (now PC-ed into “rational actor” without changing a thing about gendered power).

“According to the rights view of ethics, the concept of moral right is the fundamental moral notion, or at least the one of preeminent significance. People are viewed as social or moral atoms, armed with rights and reason [remember this word, Reason –SG], and actually or potentially in competition or conflict with one another… If any attention is given to relationships on the rights view, it is assumed they exist on a contractual or quasi-contractual basis and that the moral requirements arising from them are limited to rights and obligations.”

(Note the dis-embedded universality and abstractness of this account of human beings.)

This version of ethics, as noted earlier in this post, completely devalues mothering – as one example – and takes phallocentric, “public life” as its point of reference; exposing again the gendered public-private duality at the center of our society’s epistemology, and the hierarchical relation between each pole.

Ladd and Whitbeck counterpose an ethic of “responsibility” that begins with a redefinition of personhood. People are not heremtically sealed social units with abstract equality written over obvious and concrete inequality. Each person is fundamentally defined a counter-individualist account as being socially constituted through her or his own existing relationships. The seeming paradox that this anti-individualist account displays more respect for practical individuality should not be lost on anyone.

Whitbeck:

“What I call ‘the responsibilities view’ of ethics takes the moral responsibilities arising out of a relationship as the fundamental moral notion, and regards people as beings who can (among other things) act for moral reasons, and who come to this status through relationships with other people. Such relationships are not assumed to be contractual. The relationship of children to their parents is a good example of a relationship that is not contractual. In general, relationships between people place moral responsibilities on both parties, and these responsibilities change over time with changes in the parties and their relationships. (Newborns cannot have any responsibilities, and for that reason may be regarded as immanent people.) Each party in a relationship is responsible for ensuring some aspect of the other’s welfare or, at least, for achieving some ends that contribute to the other’s welfare or achievement… Rights and obligations do have a place within the responsibilities view. Human rights are claims upon society and upon other people that are necessary if a person is to be able to meet the responsibilities of her or his relationships…”

This issue of motherhood – as we can see – exposes the limitations of my own dear Marxist approach, which was focused by the work of two men (Marx and Engels) on one extremely important aspect of social life, the valorization of capital. Neither Marxism nor anything else can qualify as some grand unifying theory of everything, as Marx-ISTS have often implied. It is not surprising that Marx once quipped that he was not a Marxist.

[HERE IS A N EWS FLASH: Fellow socialists, Karl Marx did not discover every tool required to conclusively identify and resolve every social question. I say this explicitly, because the belief to the contrary is often implicit in the way some of us talk.]

Speculation

The gender blind spot on the left was created by a series of practical and conceptual leaps. And it was reproduced on the left through every separating and sectarian tendency that chose sides against one another based on which particular version of which particular dead communist they selected as their omniscient prophet.

First step – Marx and Engels develop a theoretical orientation with the explicit goal of working class praxis. They are taking their own contemporary world as their point of reference, and combining various earlier philosophical and political ideas – most significantly, the socialism of Saint-Simone and Fourier, the dialectic of Hegel, which they “turned off its head and stood on its feet” with Enlightenment materialism. The primary object of Marx’s study was capitalism, using British manufactories as his lab-model. Neither Marx nor Engels, as intellectually ambitious as they both were, ever laid claim to discovering THE key truth. They saw a classless society as the ultimate goal, and tried to think about how to get there from here. In the process, they wrought changes in social and political thought that moved the bar forward in history to them… we could never go back before them again.

Second step – Individuals and groups study Marxism, now developing into its own intellectual tradition. By the time of the Russian Revolution, where Marxism played a very central role in the formation and line of the victorious Bolshevik Party – in very specific space and time, and NOT transferable elsewhere – there is already a tendency to treat Marx as an infallible prophet. Lenin actually said that every word Marx wrote was correct. Marx himself would have choked on his beer at such a claim. Marxism is being treated more and more like a religion, especially with the development of state-socialism under Stalin (and later Mao), and its “principles” more and more like catechisms. (Trotsky doesn’t get off the hook here, but he never actually ran a state.)

During this process of transformation from an interpretive method into a doctrine, women engaged with Marxism – like Kollontai, Zetkin, and others – begin thinking about how the Marxist principle of denaturalization (not yet called that) might be expanded to them, as women. Male leaders, including Lenin, grant the right to legal equality for women, but remain resistant to the idea that women’s oppression as women can be dealt with until the male-led socialist revolution happens. Engels had set this idea up in his treatise on gender, The Origins of the Family, Private Property, and the State, and ambitious and important attempt to deal with the issue, but on that was still written from a male standpoint, that was markedly positivist, that was shot through with Victorian male prejudices in its characterization of naturally-chaste women, and that attempted to push gender inside class.

Third step – Socialism is militarized in garrison states by hostile encirclement, and has succeeded only in societies that are still majority peasant. Development (for defense, and based on Marxism’s own acceptance of the man-over-nature hierarchical dualism) becomes a priority, and women are again locked into traditional roles – this time with pressure from socialist states – in order to deal with the “more urgent” tasks of defending the revolution. Feminist challenges to this idea and policy are met with intense hostility, and socialists reassert the class-is-the-primary-contradiction thesis, implying that all struggles must be around one singular “main-blow” effort, which is, of course, class. Feminism is dismissed in a generalizing way, often with little attention paid to its actual proponents, as petit bourgeois, and elaborate theses are sketched out explaining to communist (overwhelmingly male) cadres why gender relations and gender inequality are reducible to reflections of capitalist economy.

Fourth step – Neither the relations of production in socialist states nor the gender relations constructing the family that articulated with those relations of production were changed. Only distribution was altered. With the collapse of the eastern Bloc, capitalism was quickly restored, and though it is generally unacknowledged, many of the reactionary impulses that had free reign during the social catastrophe that followed were powerfully conditioned by gendered family relations – especially male despotism in the home.

Note: Militarism and masculinity are deeply interfused. Transforming a society into a military garrison will give that society a decidedly masculinist character.

Legacy

In the absence of any real engagement with the central questions raised by women struggling against their oppression AS WOMEN, by men, (overwhelmingly male-led) socialists united with the least radical sections of feminism that base their arguments on liberal notions of formal equality, corresponding to a “rights-based” ethic. Ironically, this is the section of feminism that takes its philosophical cues from… the petit bourgeoisie.

There is also a powerful element of male sexual self-interest asserting itself into the gender question – and “sexual liberation” is prioritized (to give males greater access to female bodies) as an issue, while it is nearly impossible to find leftist examinations of rape, domestic abuse, or the traffic in women’s bodies.

This accounts for why leftist men will consume pornography, and reflexively defend it on (liberal, abstracted) civil libertarian grounds that make their right to view the material the phallocentric point of reference, instead of asking what the conditions were during the production of the material for the women who are performing in it. Odd how Marxists who in every other case focus on the process of production suddenly go blind to it on this topic.

Many leftist women have been misled, in my view, to embrace this civil libertarian perspective in an understandable reaction to the Victorian constraints on their own sexuality that threaten them from the theocratic right-wing. But in uniting with the “right” to consume pornography as an abstracted free-speech issue, they themselves are reducing the abstract product to a neutral image (reifying it) and placing their attention on the RIGHT OF THE CONSUMER (What does that sound like?) with no attention to what happened to women in the production process. In non-abstract reality, this material not only does not appear out of the mists without a history of production, its content is NOT neutral. It is objectifying, exploitative, and hostile to women.

(An aside to my comrade who asked – pornography here is not defined as non-commodified, erotic material or practice between, for example, lovers. I cannot generalize about such material, because to assess its ethical or even political content we would have to look at each instance of it and the context in which it is produced. The claims by commercial pornography advocates and apologists that those who critique pornography from the left are [a] anti-sex, [b] puritanical, [c] anti-male, or [d] trying to amputate eroticism from life, are scurrilous slanders.)

Objectification

Objectification has extremely important implications. Objectification is an essential component of all violence.

Objectification is the process arising out of the subject-object duality.

Alf Hornborg (The Power of the Machine, 2001) has a very strongly developed thesis on dualism, mostly from an ecological perspective, that explores its several dimensions:

“[C]onventional Western dualism… regards nature as material and society as communicative, and the two as mutually exclusive domains of reality.” (pp. 4-5) [Conventional gender ideology regards women as “nature.” –SG]

“We seem to have difficulties understanding exactly in which sense human ideas and social relations intervene in the material realities… Rather than continuing to approach ‘knowledge’ from the Cartesian assumption of a separation of subject and object, we shall have to concede that our image-building actively participates in the constitution of the world. Our perception of our… environment is inseparable from our involvement in it.” (p.10)

“In Cartesian modernity… the inclination to distinguish the self from its material surroundings is conducive to the inclination to treat even people as objects void of deeper significance. Other human beings risk appearing to us primarily as corporeal entities, rather than as signs of deeper essences inviting exploration.” (p. 137)

The association between objectification (phenomenological) and violence (ontological) is well established. Whether or when one precedes the other is contingent. The phenomenon in war of assigning a pejorative name to “the enemy” (note how this term abstracts a mass of human beings) in order to dehumanize (objectify) them is well known. Soldiers are often reluctant to kill, and a good deal of that reluctance has to do with a deep taboo against taking other “human” life. So calling an enemy a kraut or gook or hajji is part of a process of objectification, of reduction to an object. A lynching victim is a “nigger.” A domestic abuse victim is a “bitch.”

This dynamic works in a curious bidirectional way. Obligation by circumstance (as during a contested military occupation like Iraq) to dominate a population or fight an enemy leads soldiers to objectify as a way of self-justifying. But that which is objectified in advance also invites violence. The objectification of women is a fundamental rationale for rape. Objects are meant (in our instrumental Cartesian worldview) for USE. We use women, use nature, use workers, use subjected nations and castes. The subject USES the object, or completely devalues it.

One notion that is closely associated with the phenomenon of objectification is “objectivity.” This notion warrants a very close look because it maps directly onto the liberal “rational actor,” and is integral to male (as well as bourgeois and “white”) social power.

Objectivity

Evelyn Fox Keller, a feminist scientist, noted in “Feminism and Science” that “as long as the course of scientific thought was judged to be exclusively determined by its own logical ad empirical necessities, there could be no place for any signature, male or otherwise, in that system of knowledge. Furthermore, any suggestion of gender differences in our thinking about the world could argue only too readily for the further exclusion of women from science. But as the philosophical and historical inadequacies of the classical conception of science have become more evident, and as historians and sociologists have begun to identify the ways in which the development of scientific knowledge has been shaped by its particular social and political context, our understanding of science as a social process has grown. This understanding is a necessary prerequisite, both politically and intellectually, for a feminist theoretic in science.”

The claim to absolute objectivity is both a fundamentally male claim and a bourgeois claim. Marxists have long noted that the process of scientific knowledge seeking is deeply value-laden.

Note that I am not saying that no objective reality exists, based on the fact that patriarchal bourgeois scientists assert the existence of a pure objectiv-ITY. Science is a social product, but it also has a material basis. Overlooking that has lead to what Keller calls a “nihilist retreat” into radical postmodern skepticism that borders on saying there is no objective reality at all.

The dualism of the objectivity claim exists in relation to its opposite – subjectivity. Nature is the object of the subject’s (male scientist’s) inquiry (penetration). Francis Bacon actually said of natural science “For you have but to follow and as it were hound nature in her wanderings, and you will be able when you like to lead and drive her afterward to the same place again… Neither ought a man to make a scruple of entering and penetrating into those holes and corners when the inquisition of truth is the whole subject.”

In many respects, human cognition is metaphorically structured.

The claim to objectivity is inextricable from the notion of emotionless reasoning. Keller again:

“The ideological ingredients of particular concern to feminists are found where objectivity is linked with autonomy and masculinity, and in turn, the goals of science with power and domination. The linking of objectivity with social and political autonomy has been examined by many…and shown to serve a variety of important political functions. The implications of joining objectivity with masculinity are less well understood. This conjunction also serves critical political functions… an understanding of the sociopolitical meaning of the entire constellation requires an examination of the psychological processes through which these connections become internalized and perpetuated…

“…Our early maternal environment, coupled with the cultural definition of masculine (that which can never appear feminine) and of autonomy (that which can never be compromised by dependency) leads to the association of female with the pleasures and dangers of merging, and of male with the comfort and loneliness of separateness.”

Eros

I have a quote on this blog masthead from Audre Lorde. Lorde was the author of an essay called “The Uses of the Erotic.” I said earlier that the erotic dimension of each life begins its formation very early, almost from birth.

Lorde said that our general understanding of the erotic as something very instrumental and genitally focused was wrong, a distortion created by a society that objectifies people.

“We tend to think of the erotic as an easy, tantalizing sexual arousal. I speak of the erotic as the deepest life force, a force which moves us toward living in a fundamental way.”

Marcuse tried to capture the same concept as something called cathexis – a subject-to-subject psychic connection to the world. He suggested that a non-alienated erotic life would be such that sexual energy would be carried into creative work, and creative work contained within our sexuality. In figurative language this is the idea of a deep spiritual connection.

Nancy Hartsock described eros as “fusion with another, sensuality and bodily pleasure, and creative activity.”

All three are describing a kind of directed energy. Hartsock notion of fusion is very compelling here – “the making of one out of more than one.”

“The making of one out of more than one, sensuality in a broad sense, and finally the pleasure of competent activity – all represent aspects of eros…. An expansion of the terms… such as this can aid efforts to examine the effects of eros on the organization and construction of community. By recasting eros in these terms, we are in a better position to trace the associations of masculinity with power and violence, and to see the variety of ways in which our society puts eros into the service of violence and even death. In the area defined by each aspect of eros [fusion, sensuality, creative activity], the cultural choice of violence or hostility erects profound barriers to the construction of a humane community.”

In fact, concludes Hartsock, in male-dominated society, where the first formation of men’s identity as men is rejecting the fusion with his mother and differentiating himself from that first sense of community, community is re-constructed as conflict. It is this experience, which boys across almost all cultures share at some level, that might account for the remarkable similarities between (violent) masculinities across almost all cultures.

This applies from football culture to gang rape to war.

The one thing all cultures still share is the basic sexual division of labor for infant care and child-rearing. (The one thing they are more and more sharing, albeit n its different guises, is a capitalist world system, in a metastatic imperialist phase of exterminism.)

Hegemonic male sexuality is constructed as hostility and aggression. It defines community as agonal, not mutual. This childhood drama of consolidating male sexual identity through rejection of the female is basic to that development. The world of the child is constructed symbolically and affectively long before it is constructed cognitively.

Just as Marx, in his examination of work, identified inhering antagonism as definitive of the economic class relation, left and radical feminism, in its examination of sex, has identified antagonism at the heart of gender.

Just as Marx described economic ideology, Hartsock describes gender ideology:

“We cans state… with some confidence that the culturally produced dynamics of hostility that structure sexual excitement [objectification, fetishizaton, humiliation, domination] correspond to masculine sexuality that depends on defiling or debasing a fetishized sexual object. Thus we are dealing with a gendered power relation based on what our cultural has defined sexuality. In turn, this cultural construction of sexuality must be understood to express the experience of the ruling gender. This of course is to be expected. We should recall the significance of the second assumption I have taken over from Marx: The ideas of the ruling class express the dominant material relations in the form of ideas. Thus, what our culture has made of sexuality expresses the dominance of men over women in the form of ideas. But just as the ideas of the capitalist class are at once the ideas that express its experience and its dominance and also those that structure social relations for other classes, so too we can expect that because of masculine cultural hegemony, the sexual dynamics typify some women.”

Erotic fusion in the male sexual cosmos is danger – intimacy. Instead of making one of more than one, male sexual hostility is expresses as fetishization, the reduction of women to their body parts…. sometimes even to sexual props women wear (acting these vengeful dramas out with two men or two women still involves a symbolic female, a bottom, a fem). One is not made of more than one. Two are divided between subject and object.

This is where a study of the content of pornography is important – beyond the study of its production and the women exploited in that production. In pornography, men are relieved of the danger of intimacy; they can fetishize and reduce women; and the other thing they can do is silence them. Pornographic images have no possibility of demanding their subjectivity, much less the intersubjectivity of fusion. The image of a female stranger is objectified absolutely. The male can substitute control for the perilous business – at least from the standpoint of how his sexuality was constructed in antagonism to the mother – of fusion.

We must study pornographic scripts to understand why pornography is far more important than a mere policy issue. It is a special and powerful ideological weapon.

“Loathing of the body [always a reminder of mortality -SG], in the sense that bodily needs and desires are humiliating, appears in another way in pornography in the form of the contrast between the man’s self control and the woman’s frenzied abandon. It is consistently a woman who is… ‘humiliated by her desire, her helplessness, and materiality.’ These issues of control and humiliation are clear… This insistence on independence and control on one side and a victim humiliated by her own desires on the other appears frequently. The presence of a victim, one who submits in fact, requires another who remains in the control of another, and the woman who is humiliated by her desires and materiality, expresses and records the reversal/revenge of infant and childhood experience.” (Hartsock, p. 173)

This is the conflation of sensuality (an aspect of eros) with shame.

When I was in the army, we were all pornography consumers. A very common pornographic script was the woman who was “begging” to fellate an emotionally distant or scornful humiliating male. A very common reaction of those who watched (and sometimes the male in the film) was to utter, “You fucking bitch,” as they were aroused. It is difficult not to see this as symbolic revenge against the mother who knew each male when he was completely dependent, rooting for the nipple.

Hartsock goes on to point out how masculinity is associated with death, and death with creativity (the last aspect of eros). Anyone who has studied military masculinity will know what this means. Machismo is a kind of death-cult. And sexual fusion culminating in death is a widely used and popular dramatic convention in our society. It has affective cultural resonance. Fusion risks the loss of male identity when “one is made of more than one.”

To be continued with:

Part II

Rational Man

Now that we’ve seen what the masculinization of eros looks like, let’s return to the “rational man.”

32 Comments

  1. Consumer:

    Your work in this field is very admirable, although I often have trouble grasping the finer points. Your writings have, at the very least, made me reflect upon my consumption of pornography. This is big, seeing as I used to lump all opposition to it as prudery and Puritanical hypocrisy. So thank you for that.

    You have made several points about military masculinity and its link to pornography and subjugation. Did you see that BBC article about the video of Royal Marines duking it out in the buff?

    According to the article, 12 new recruits were made to strip and were subjected to an initiation ritual “while around 40 other marines – also stripped naked – watched.”

    The fight was directed by two officers, one who was “dressed in a surgeon’s outfit, the other dressed as a schoolgirl.”

    The whistleblower said, “the ritual had been more than drunken antics and that the protagonists were forced to fight in a humiliating manner.”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4475034.stm

    “Machismo is a kind of death-cult” you said. Perhaps this is a manifestation of that.

  2. Stan:

    Thank YOU. This is as complimentary s anyting I could ever hope for. This piece (more to come) was written for you, brother… to all the brothers.

  3. peggy:

    Stan – Of the countless men who are antagonistic to women, and/or objectify us (are unable to or refuse to accept on a deep level that we are feeling, thinking creatures like them) some are aware of those feelings. Of those some, a certain number are proud of their attitude, and flaunt it as natural and quintessentially masculine. Others are aware of those feelings and ashamed of them, and try to repress them or deny them. But still those repressed or semi-repressed feelings come out in those men’s behavior. I think only a very few, like you, are aware of those feelings, know they are wrong, AND question where they come from and how to correct them.

    An interesting idea might be that the very most aggressively misogynist and masculinist men, those who know their misogynist feelings and flaunt them, might be most amenable of all to transformation. Because, at least they can openly admit what they are, and this is a necessary first step to transformation.

    I think when you write your book on this subject, you can reach a broader audience by giving specific, real-life examples of the abstract concepts of which you have written here. Real-life is always more complicated than ideas, but at the same time, it is more comprehensible to most.

    Here is a complicated but comprehensible real-life anecdote. By the time my former husband and I got around to choosing to have children, I was already aware of the gender-division-of-labor bias and how it affected children. So I encouraged my husband to spend as much time as he could with the children, and he was happy to do so. I believe he entered into a truly intersubjective relationship with both of them, especially the first. The second was conceived in anger, and after the second was born, my husband refused, for a few days, to have anything to do with that child, until I said to him – “However angry you may be with me, do not take it out on this baby, who never did anything to harm you.” And my husband took that on board, and became a good and loving parent to the second child as well.

    Both the children were boys. They grew close to their father, and identified with him. But their father remained a closet-misogynist. I don’t think the boys are misogynist. They both have formed strong and enduring partnerships with women. But they, especially the elder one, are psychologically distant from me. Whenever we meet, tensions and anger flare up – whereas they have an easy relationship with their father. And I must ask myself, is their discomfort with me because of something I did? Some way I behaved? There were plenty of things I did wrong, but I always loved them, and placed their interests above my own. There were plenty of things their father did wrong as well, and he did not always place his sons’interests above his own. So, go figure, and live and learn.

    When you write, you may also make the point that female human beings are also capable of cruel objectification of others. When I was a little girl, about five or six, I was cruel toward smaller or weaker children. I physically attacked them, ran after them, caught them and scratched them with my fingernails. There was one boy my age who was heavy and clumsy and could not run very fast. I called him “slow Joe” and made his life a misery. And there was one visually handicapped girl that I chased after and scratched and hurt. I do not know why I did this.

    My second grade teacher, Mrs Anderson, learned of my chasing this girl and talked to me. How I wish I remember what she said. She was gentle, not mean or accusing. But after her talk to me, this visually handicapped girl and I became best friends, and stayed so through high school.

    And in the later years of high school, that same “slow Joe” and I became close friends and spent a lot of time talking together. And when his girlfriend, Sandy, in a spat, refused to go to the prom with him, he asked me, and I accepted, and we went to the prom together, both all dressed up, and had a wonderful time. It was probably the best date ever in my life.

    So, it goes both ways, and it is not simple. But I can say from experience that intersubjectivity enriches your life, and is nothing to be afraid of.

  4. Laurent:

    Stan you got me lost again…THis is deep and challenging, and although English isn’t my first language,
    I think your US readers will struggle to capture it all.
    Still, re your passage on Eros, you are making possitive comments re Eroticism.
    I know how much you hold, (rightly so)against porn and prostitution. But it isn’t specificaly Porn or Prositition that need to be codemn, but 95% of it, that is made to serve the Patriarchic Empire. This essai demonstrate it.

    The dilemna is
    Chimpanze vs Bonobos
    Patriarchy vs Matriarchi
    Destruction vs Creation
    Monotheism vs Spirituality/polytheism
    Neoconservatism Vs Communalism
    Sun vs Moon
    YIN vs Yang

    As long as we will stay off balance, destruction will continue.

    When are we going to use the concept of affirmative action and grant an equal representation of females at all respective ranks in Political and Economic scene?

  5. Consumer:

    I was wondering about the different manifestations of pornography, meaning stories/fanatsies etc. that are affected by cultural background or tailored to a specific consumer base.

    You said that a common theme in porn is a woman out of control begging for it while a distant male services her. I wonder if this is true in most countries. Are there noticable theme differences between, say, Brazilian and Ukranian porn?

    In Japanese porn, movies with such storylines abound, i.e., the woman is begging for it and the male is cool or mocking even. However, I can think of another type of porn that is very popular and yet totally different. In it, the male protagonist is no stud. He’s “normal” to a fault, often chubby with glasses, balding, middle-aged, in other words, he’s Joe Everyman. In this scenario, the man is approached by a hot young woman in a normal everyday setting. Joe goes to the dentist and the dental hygienist services him; Joe’s at the office and the new secretary services him, etc.

    In this genre, the male is breathing heavy trying vainly to control himself while the woman is cool and clearly not as aroused. Often, the scene is shot from the view of the man, kindof like a first-person shooter game.

    This clearly differs from the above-mentioned storyline. They may be similar in that both involve objectification of women for the pleasure of men, but it’s like the makers of such films are tapping into escapist fantasy where the viewer can be king for 29 minutes.

    If that’s the case, and the actresses are getting paid a lot to cater to this (manufactured?) need, some might argue convincingly that this doesn’t constitute violence against women.

    I think you quoted somebody once as saying that men are too obsessed with getting off. This is probably very true. For me, I started to notice that my fantasies were revolving around the themes seen in porno movies, meaning not so much remembering past intimate encounters I’d actually had. This struck me as damaging, although I couldn’t articulate it well. I still can’t.

    Anyway, I look forward to your next post on this subject.

  6. Stan:

    Two quick points, because I am immersed in getting this second part done.

    One, we should get into the habit of de-fetishizing this material every time we study it. While the script conatined as the dicrusive content of it is important, there remains the dimension of produciton – where the people we see “performing” in the material are real. they have histories before and after the production, as human beings.

    http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/dworkin/MoorcockInterview.html

    Second, the cool dominatrix and the shy male is just a flipped script (kind of – I’ll wager she was still dressed up and shaved and painted in a way desinged to appear sexually provocative, infantilized). It raises a fear in the male viewer (of powerful women), then domesticates it as a fantasy. She may be distant, but she still sucks his dick. Black male-white female porn does the same thing, only differently. It raises not the dominant-women fear, to add a touch of domesticated fear to the sensation, but the Black male satyr myth (and with it the fear of a racially unstable female sexuality), which is extremely fearsome to many white men – then places it under the control of the viewer to domesticate it – as a way of enhancing the thrill.

    “Escalations” in content are driven by both the addictive nature of porn for alienated men and by plain capitalist imperatives. Robert Jensen has written about this escalaton process, that pushes pornographer to further and further extremes – women inserting traffic cones into themselves, sex with animals, eating shit, Bang Bus humiliations, and so forth.

    No form of commercial porn can be exempted from its character as a commodity, and therefore for what it says about male aversion to fusion, and the eroticizaton of objectification. All of it must be interrogated as part of a violent exploitative international industry. And once that’s done, we are beholden, if we are real about wanting a society without domination and exploitation, wehave to try to understand the meanings of content and our reactions to it.

    As someone committed to a revolutionary project, I honestly feel like this is a duty.

  7. Consumer:

    With regard to de-fetishizing, there are genres here in Japan that revolve around “one hit wonders”, meaning a regular girl who is not a pro. A girl who does it once for a load of money never to do it again.

    You can often see young women getting approached by recruiters in front of major train stations. This type of video typically starts with a long interview, mostly non-erotic in nature, what are your hobbies, where’d you grow up, etc. There’s no play-acting. (Well, I guess they could be playing like there’s no play-acting…) The punchline is that after this, she’s going to go back to her regular life.

    But then again, the emphasis on her everyday-ness might be the fetish here… And what she’s willing to do for money. OK, I think I got this point…

    What you said about alienation really rings true. Renting pornos has never struck me as healthy. But it’s like they cater to a market where guys come home from a long day at work, they had a couple drinks maybe, and they want to get off while they still have their buzz going before going to sleep. I mean, it’s not like the culture and environment in places like Tokyo is conducive to finding a partner. (Hence, I think, the huge popularity of hostess clubs and online dating schemes.)

    The current capitalist system requires that people work in this manner to make a living. Maybe for porn consumers working in this system, it’s not so much about fear of fusing with another person, it’s just inevitable given the circumstances. Maybe the twisted porn that comes out is symptomatic of the ills of capitalist consumerism, and not of the fears of the consumer. But then there’s that chicken and the egg thing… Plus, that obsession with getting our rocks off.

    I understand your points about escalation and porn as commodity. Is it possible then, that the problem is not in porn itself but in how it is created and marketed? I read somewhere that couples having intimacy problems are sometimes counselled to watch erotic movies together. I mean, is porn to be completely done away with or created differently?

    I saw a video once that was really beautiful to watch. It was a couple making love to each other, with each other. Granted, that was the first and last time I ever saw a porno that I really thought was beautiful but they do exist, I think.

    Maybe that was a diamond in the rough. Packaging and selling sex for profit inevitably leads to it and those involved in its creation to becoming objects and commodities.

    Still, I wonder if wanting to watch people make love is the problem. It may be that the problem lies in the industry and what it needs to do to survive.

    There was a movie that tried, I think, to comment on this. It’s called Boogie Nights and stars Mark Wahlberg.

    Aaah it’s 6:30AM and I’ve been up all night. Again, I look forward to your next post on this. It’s very important stuff.

  8. Julian Real:

    Hi Consumer, and Stan, and all other readers of this thread.
    I’d like to reply to some of Consumer’s comments, as they are, for me, thoughtful comments, welcoming of feedback.
    Consumer: If that’s the case, and the actresses are getting paid a lot to cater to this (manufactured?) need, some might argue convincingly that this doesn’t constitute violence against women.
    Julian: I would argue there’s a callousness to such an argument, and a prerequisite invisilizing of patriarchy’s harm to women (and men) implicit in what you say there. Let me explain. First, what does it mean that we live in a society where men will pay women more to be naked in pornographic ways, and to be sexually available to men in similar ways, than to do anything else? For this to be the case, a severe devaluation of women must already be in place, and economic and sexual and racial forces exacerbate that foundation of dehumanisation, whereby men can think: A woman wants to do this, willingly. That some women want to do this assumes a reality of consent that I do not believe is real in the world, for most people anyway, most especially First to Third World sex workers and First to Third World sex slaves and those caught in sex trafficking.
    That men will pay women to be the women who cater to men sexxxually, means that damage has been done, to those women, and to those men, in ways that dehumanise both groups, but in ways that further exploit and degrade her, while pleasing him. His pleasure is the goal in this industry, not hers. Don’t forget that. She is paid a lot because men (and some women) want to get off on her dehumanisation which they call her chosen expression of gender.
    Consumer: What you [Stan Goff] said about alienation really rings true. Renting pornos has never struck me as healthy.

    Julian: It’s healthy for those who wish to be patriarchs, and to for those who understand sexxx to be a wonderful form of sex. It’s healthy for sexxxist capitalism. But I know what you mean.

    Consumer: But it’s like they cater to a market where guys come home from a long day at work, they had a couple drinks maybe, and they want to get off while they still have their buzz going before going to sleep.

    Julian: Guys that don’t work do the same thing, and guys use women as pornography when they don’t have pornography in front of them. It’s complicated, but derives, in this view, from an assumed patriarchal, and in some instances corporate produced, naturalness to woman-as-sex/sexxx-object.

    Consumer: I mean, it’s not like the culture and environment in places like Tokyo is conducive to finding a partner. (Hence, I think, the huge popularity of hostess clubs and online dating schemes.)
    Julian: The privileging of coupledom is part of what patriarchy and capitalism require us to want to do, whether or not we actually do it. For example, at Republican National Conventions, prostitutes are used more in the city where the convention is than the prostitutes who are used in the vicinity of the Democratic National Conventions. The Right claims moral ground by promoting heterosexual marriage, while those Right-Wing men are most likely to be traveling abroad to fuck Third World children, women, and U.S. prostitutes, or be sucked off by them. But (hetero) coupledom is still materially and morally privileged, despite the sermons and rhetoric from the Christian Right.

    The Left privileges sexxx and sexism, it appears, bowing down to the behaviours of the likes of Bill Clinton, who had a habit of sexxxually using women, while calling Larry Flynt a Free Speech Hero, not a Hate Speech proponent/Corporate Pimp. See: http://hustlingtheleft.com

    The popularity of hostess clubs, etc., can be seen as a natural social outcome of capitalism only if the damage done through patriarchal gendering is first invisibilised, or seen as a consequence of capitalism, not a prerequisite for it.

    Consumer: I understand your points about escalation and porn as commodity. Is it possible then, that the problem is not in porn itself but in how it is created and marketed?

    Julian: This assumes a distinction between what porn is and how it is created and marketed that I do not believe is socially real. What porn is IS what porn does IS what is produced IS what is distributed IS what is consumed. These areas of production are not delineated by different values or practices. Male supremacy and misogyny are required as a ground, from which a desire for sexxx is produced, privileges and entitlements given especially to men to consume women in various voyeuristic and physical-interpersonal ways must be in place for men to register the possibility that: She is for me.
    Consumer: I read somewhere that couples having intimacy problems are sometimes counselled to watch erotic movies together. I mean, is porn to be completely done away with or created differently?
    Julian: I question this as an anxiety among men, and some women: What happens if all the porn goes away. First, it is an absurb concern, along the lines of: What if there was suddenly no pollution? Pornography is not leaving anytime soon. I consider this argument a form of histeria, which seeks to prioritise men’s assumed sexual needs over the destruction of human lives, mostly marginalised female ones.

  9. Julian Real:

    Two stories:
    1. A white U.S. hetero man I know was rejected by a female partner. He was hurt by the rejection (which ended the relationship), and has not found ways to move beyond his hurt, which speaks to the ways in which men’s and women’s hurts are unattended to generally. To help himself through this hurt, he wrote a piece of comedy—a stand-up routine, in fact—in which he comments about all the things he supposedly misses about his ex, but it soon becomes clear to the audience that he is listing the things he least liked about her, such as when she was “sitting around reading entertainment magazines all day long”. He then goes into a discussion of her body, noting that her spine stuck out alarmingly from her back, and makes strange comments about what it was like, based on this physical anomaly, to penetrate her sexually from behind.

    I see him moving, due to lack of resources (internal and social), from hurt to misogyny in ways that will be both public (spoken on stages) and used to make people laugh, at her, and at his hurt now “appropriately” (in patriarchy) transformed into misogyny. The hurt-made-hate will be celebrated, therefore, as social custom: stand-up comedy.

    2. I know another U.S. white man who is also heterosexual. He heard a story about a bisexual female he has been attracted to for a long time (years) playfully engaging, at a party, with a gay male: the gay male had whipped cream on his face and she took some of it off with her mouth, without making contact with his lips or face. Earlier in the evening he witnessed her brother, who is heterosexual, engaging playfully with the gay male. The hetero guy and the gay male stood back to back to see who was taller, among the same group of friends (earlier at the same party). The hetero guy playfully and repeatedly rubbed his butt-cheeks against those of the gay male. The gay male was not alarmed by either act. He understood them to be similarly erotically playful, yet innocent (meaning, here, intending no violation or harm or humiliation).

    My hetero friend assessed these two stories differently than the gay male who actually experienced them. The hetero guy understood the act of the female he longs for as “problematic” in that she was being, for lack of a better word, some variation on a tease. When I asked him what was different about the brother’s playfulness, he said he didn’t register it as erotic (because heterosexual).

    The gay male noted that both were erotic, perhaps, and both were playful, and the intentions of both initiators, that of the sister and the brother, were likely similarly innocuous. But my friend saw hers as more suspect, more devious, more corrupt, simply because it elicited in him feelings of jealousy and longing to be part of the scene. So his feelings, not her actions, were the source of his sexist response to hearing about what she and her brother had separately done with the gay male.

    Conclusion:
    If women hurt men, men are socially justified in publicly humiliating and degrading women, primarily for the entertainment of other heterosexual men. These hateful acts-as-entertainment, which are also found commonly in pornography, are seen as socially and politically appropriate and normal.

    If men (mis)perceive a woman’s actions as sexually provocative, she is then judged in sexist ways, in ways that the same man would not judge a man’s similar behaviour, simply because the observing/judging male is predisposed, through interest or custom, to see her behaviour as qualitatively different, meaning “more reprehensible”. His judgment of her behaviour was different from his assessment of her brother’s; he didn’t consciously own the actual cause of this difference in judgment (his own misperceptions and self-assigned meanings of each sibling’s act: hers as overly sexualized, the brother’s as entirely non-sexual). Therefore, a difference not found in the acts themselves (as experienced by the physical participants), but rather shaped by his own sexual orientation, and longings for that particular woman, was applied to her intentions and actions: she had a lascivious intent and the act was sexual; the brother committed a morally unproblematic action, spun out of a benign intention. My friend had trouble seeing that he was operating out of a double standard.

    The gay male clarified the sexism in his friend’s thinking/feeling. The gay male also challenged the sexually hostile content of the stand-up piece in story #1.

    These are two instances addressing how misogyny or sexism is produced, on an interpersonal stage, and can be challenged as such.

  10. Julian Real:

    The last entry was meant to start with this statement:

    Thanks, Peggy, for that great addition to the discussion.

  11. The duck that rocks the craddle:

    Hi. A friend told me to check out this article.

    Reading it gave me some ideas of critique that i am about to share with you here. Read it if you want to.

    I am a bit divided from the experience.

    It is a great summary of various basuc ideas in Communism as well as Feminism.

    I think tought that the format should be worked out in conection to that.

    The straight text format lures the reader to belive that there will be something realy new in it rather than a summary. I think that the format might also scare away some of the people that would get the most out of this text.

    I would love to see this material be visualy reworked in conection with artists(maybie even the writer himself if he feels fit for it and wants to do it).

    There is a rich fauna of fantastic pamphlette design historicaly done by feminists that could inspire. Another simple but powerfull solution is the situationist way of putting some of the text in the bubbles of some pulp-comic and thus create random art that can amuse the reader at the same time as she is consuming the text.

    Also i have some toughts about the analysis. I think that communism that is not suporting feminism(just like anarchists like proudhon who wants to rule over domesticated housewifes) is a grand contradiction.

    To some degree it is a result of lacks in the class analysis of Marx in particaular and to some degree of the less quilty Engels.

    What you mention about consumer right is one such grand contradiction.

    It is quite obvious that a hegemonic or maledominated group is usualy regarded as worth more acording to most people.

    Communism in its various forms is no diferent in that way. One important difference is tough, compared to many other ideologies is that actions based on Communists movements on the backs of women is a contradiction in itself. Conservatism, neoliberalism and other fundamentalism does not have to deal with the same trouble.

    How Marx and Engels writings has been misintepritated by some people is not something that i feel that i can blame them for.

    I would take schoolings in Marx from Emma Goldman rather than Lenin anyday.

    Lenins love for taylorism is a total ignorance of Marxs statement on consumer fetishe. Therefore i would not be surprised if he also ignored Engels critical statement that the male is the bourgiouse/capitalist in relationship to the woman(who is the worker in that relationship).

    I would love to take on me to recreate your article into some more visual format but i dont know when i would have time to do such a thing so ill better hold my horses and hopes that someone else can turn it into a visual format that will lure people into reading it and coming out on the other side enlightend with both feminism and knowledge about the flaws of 19th centuary communism in relationship to the opression of women.

  12. Consumer:

    This is great, I’m glad we have this forum to discuss what is arguably one of the most important issues facing humanity. Besides, of course, the ecocidal train wreck waiting to happen thanks to the fruits of consumer-based capitalism. And these two issues are inextricably linked.

    With regard to Julian’s comments, please understand that I’m not unaware of the patriarchal construct of sexxx as it currently exists. Nor do I seek to justify how this blight manifests itself. My statements (made after a huge day at work) failed to convey this: Given what we know about the effects of sex as commodity, what do we do about it?

    I still don’t know, but forums like this promote awareness and, most importantly, semi-objective reflection on one’s actions. I think about these issues every day now, something I wasn’t doing just a year ago. So thanks to all, let’s keep it rolling.

  13. peggy:

    Another point to add to this discussion. In the non-modern world, childbirth is the most exhausting and dangerous form of labor. Countless millions of women have died in childbirth, or from childbirth-related causes, and continue to do so. In South Asia, until very recently, more than fifty percent of adult female mortality was from childbirth or childbirth-related causes We in the modern world are inclined to forget how profoundly childbirth has shaped and continues to shape the female human condition. But it is obvious that the very first division of labor was gender-based, because women have always had to do the hard labor of childbirth, whereas men are, and have always been, free of this labor. Outside the realm of modern birth-control and childbirth-easing technologies, women are handicapped by NATURE. There is no getting around this fact. Men are therefore advantaged by nature, and they have used this initial advantage to increase their power over the rest of us, by, among other strategies, developing belief systems that make it the moral right of men to rule, and to monopolize social power.

  14. ben:

    Hi, been glancing at your site for a while and was pretty excited to read this article, but right off the bat it’s not sitting well.

    Your arguments about sexuality start off with the passage from Nancy Hartsock, who I haven’t read but seems to be arguing a complete blank slate with regards to male and female sexuality. Her points are interesting and surely have some merit but little I know of genetics and psychology, heavily overstated. There are slight but meaningful correlations between things like homosexuality and certain prenatal infections.

    You say: “Anyone who believes that these pre-literate forces of the personality do not shape social thoughts and actions throughout life is in denial or delusion.” And sure, it’s hard to claim they are totally irrelevant. But I don’t think you should use this as a theoretical jumping-off point for your whole argument. Girls are not just weak guys with boobs who have been repressed. They develop differently, they think differently in basic cognitive ways. I’m not saying I don’t share your idealism and many of your other points are not valid –you obviously have a better understanding of the sociological and ideologial dynamics that I do. But I think it cripples your argument from the start if you do not acknowledge the force of our genes, whicher are (becoming) better understood yet regardless assert themselves extremely forcefully.

  15. stan:

    Prenatal infections? Surely you jest.

    Not trying to be mean, but I’m not buying this.

    On…

    Your characterization of Hartsock (and you admit you haven’t read her) is a complete straw man (tho I doubt by intent). Hartsock hasn’t the slightest intention in her book “Money, Sex and Power” of even addressing the question of heredity. In fact, the index in the book has not a single reference to “heredity,” “genetics,” or biology.” The sub-title is “Toward a Feminist Historical Materialism,” which assumes at least a passing acquaintence with the same.

    That is, she begins with the acceptance of basic precepts in the “materialist conception of history” framework (the Marxist method of doing history), then uses that same method to identify and begin to resolve some of the contradicitons that have developed in the body of Marxist work with regard to gender. Her particular emphasis is on something called “standpoint.”

    My point is — and this is relevant to the questions you raise here — you have to understand THAT framework before we tackle this question of heredity.

    Let me make a modest attempt (in the plainest language I can muster). I am probably repeating some things here, and I recon=mmend you go back and study the parts about “dualism” as a step toward clarifying what I’m about to write.

    Nature vs nurture, or biological vs social determination of personality and behavior, reflects this unexamined idea that reality is divided up into two categories. Think about it. Why don’t we have three influences here? It’s mind-numbing to even conceive of another, so entrenched is this idea.

    Historical materialists are not saying that human beings are socially determined or biologically “determined.” We use the term “conditioned,” because it is more accurate.

    First of all, we believe there is such a thing as individual agency — the ability to make decisions in the face of powerful hereditary and social influences. So the notion of determinaton is off the table.

    Secondly, we say that human beings — though capable of making decisions — do not have an infinite number of options. We have real limits placed on us by physics, by our biological limitations, by how we understand the world, and by our emotional and intellectual makeup.

    Thirdly, and here’s the important one, we contend that the divison of heredity and environment, including social environment, into separate influences is a mistake. It is THE mistake. Go take a look at the piece on postmodernism for more on this.

    http://feralscholar.org/blog/?p=215

    So we don’t say that social infleunces “outweigh” hereditary ones, or vice-versa. We say that this is a false dichotomy… a separation between two “forces” that are never separated in reality. This is tricky, because what happens when we start teasing interfused realities apart in our heads, we then begin to impose those notions back on reality in a way that misrepresents it.

    And be very skeptical when you read science that purports to show herteditary determination. Much of it is agenda-laden, and oftne even commissioned by people with political agendas that are antithetical to the aspirations of women, the working class, and subjugated nations.

  16. ben:

    Most of my understanding of current science is based on _Nature via Nurture_ (also published as _The Agile Gene_) by Matt Ridley, which I unfortunately do not own so I can’t cite very well. I also took a combo psychology/philosophy language class a few years ago that really opened my eyes to how little of the brain we understand. Ridley does a good job of tackling the nature/nurture dychotomy from a variety of perspectives, and although his sociology and politics leave a bit to be desired, the fact that he gets into them at all makes the book much more worthwhile. His perspective is mainly that of a geneticist, but he does make a good case for the importance of genes in development.

    And from how I understand his and your arguments, he basically agrees with you, at least in the context of your followup. His argument is that genes are extremely flexible and the dichotomy, as you say, is a false one, because nurture ‘turns on’ genes and in general you can’t have one without the other.

    So unless I’m way off base I think I understand and agree with your response. But I still think your quotes of Hartsock come off as too dismissive of nature’s influence. (‘nature’ is a relevant distinction here, no?) Saying “we can eroticize anything” and denying universals means to me that there is no nature there to even try and understand.

    Anyhow I intend to actually finish reading your article before I comment any further. Oh and I was NOT joking about prenatal infections. Search for the phrase “What could the mother be reacting to?” inside Ridley’s _The Agile Gene_ at amazon.com.

  17. stan:

    Running out the door.

    I havewn’t had time to check this piece in detail, but here is the link. On the debate over “selfish genes,” etc.

    Your boy, Ridley, is mentioned in there.

    Later all.

    http://human-nature.com/science-as-culture/dusek.html

  18. Yolanda Carrington:

    To respond to what Peggy said earlier in the thread: Women are NOT and have NEVER been “handicapped by nature.” The idea that we are is completely fallacious, and may I say offensive. Being biologically female—including having a vagina, a menstual cycle, getting cramps and PMS, getting pregnant, giving birth—is not an anatomical or physiological handicap, and certainly not a damn disadvantage. The fact that pregnancy and childbirth are potentially dangerous still does not make it so.

    Women die in childbirth around the world for many reasons, but there are two very imporant ones: the lack of access to quality health care, and the lack of control over their own lives. You know as well as I do where that comes from: global material conditions imposed by the rich, racially privileged, and politically connected men of the world.

    I don’t mean to come off as harsh, Peggy, but I get intensely angry when anyone tries to use nature as reason for gender oppression. It’s simply not true, but more importantly, it is extremely damaging to women’s sense of self, and self-hatred is an enormous problem amongst women. Think about it: if you are “naturally” defective, who needs to worry about listening to or struggling with you? You’ll never be worth shit anyway, because you are worthless. Ergo the same oppression again and again.

    For what it’s worth, I have to struggle with my own programmed bullshit as well (and there’s piles and piles of it), so know that I’m not for one second condemning you. But in fighting for a new world, we’ve got to challenge each other, and continue to challenge ourselves. It’s the only way we’ll bust the chains.

    In struggle,
    Yolanda

  19. Yolanda Carrington:

    One more thing: using terms like “modern” and “non-modern” to distinguish between the global North and the global South is problematic as well. Utilizing the same tools, techniques, and processes that your ancestors did millennia ago doesn’t make you “non-modern.”

    I have to challenge myself in this area often as well.

  20. lin:

    I have some big problems with some of Peggy’s assertions, too. While childbirth has and always will have risks involved, and many women have died in childbirth, childbirth became much more dangerous as it passed from the control of midwives and into the hands of male doctors. Yolanda is correct when she states that women are in danger because they are not in control of their own lives. It’s a nice fantasy to believe that “modern” medical technology exists to serve the needs of women and to make their lives better, but it’s largely not true. Our medical system mainly allows aging white men to live longer, and beyond that simply serves the needs of capitalism. As for being handicaped by nature, I remember my midwife, a woman who has asssised at hundreds of births, saying that she felt sorry for men because the could never experience birth. Right on! Childbirth most definitely shapes the female condition, as you say. It can be extremely empowering. It is the “modern” way we go about it that has made it hell for so many women. I always like reading your comments, Peggy, but I just really disagree with you on this one.

  21. Julian Real:

    To Ben.

    Lest we forget: the “y” chromosome than makes up the xy of the male of the human species, has been considered a defective x gene by some scientists.

    As Andrea Dworkin noted, it may be easier to change nature than culture.

    And, to give credit where credit is due, see this write-up about the important scientist, Barbara McClintock, who first described the flexibility of genes: the fact that they are not fixed pieces, in a mechanistic micro-world, but are, rather, mutable, responsive to their surroundings.

    http://www.rufusbooks.com/exec/asin/1584151110/ref=froogle

  22. Chris:

    Regarding the “women being handicapped by nature” thing: I can understand what inspired the comment considering things like strength and the complications of different ‘cycles’, etc.
    On the other hand it’s possible that much male domination is inspired by fear of women stemming from a jealousy of female creative power. A fear of obsolescence at the realization that men are not dissimilar to clone bees in the reproductive process. Sources of an essential ‘seed’ but disposable and less godlike. In this respect the man is the one that is handicapped by nature. Therefore the males feel an urge to control and subordinate the goddess nature of females. After all, a praying mantis’ mating habits are terrifying.
    Not sure why insects are infesting this post.

  23. Julian Real:

    Regardless of the psychology of sexism, the reality of CRAP should compel men to work to end rape, battery, prostitution, pornography, sexual slavery, racism, incest, war, poverty, famine, and environmental destruction, because all of those things harm women.

  24. ben:

    Stan: I know I promised I would finish reading your articles before responding futher, but I haven’t had the time recently, and this response has been sitting unsubmitted in my browser long enough that I’m just going to go ahead and send it.

    Thanks for the Sociobiology Sanitized link, which I did at least read. I’m having trouble wrapping my head around all the ideas, especially how everything relates to Mead and cultural relativism. Ripley indeed portrays the Mead debacle as closed, but he does offer a number of arguments against blank slate (lack of) human nature. In an early chapter he examines different sexual cultures in great apes such as gorillas and bonobos, and his comment about the relative lack of human variation as compared to these other species made a lot of sense to me. If culture is indeed the trump card over our genes, then why don’t we see far more variation in human sexual practices? I would assume we see more intra-species variation in humans than great apes, but to ignore genetics seems silly. “Culture as a trump card over our genes” is of obviously a straw man, as you yourself said. But then don’t you need to address human nature (or as Ridley says, genetics) instead of just focusing on the nurture?

    Here are some good quotes from Ridley:

    “If I am to sustain my argument that genes are at the root of nurture as well as nature, then I must somehow explain how genes make culture possible. Once again, I intend to do so, not by proposing “genes for” cultural practice, but by proposing the existence of genes that respond to the environment–of genes as mechanisms, not causes. This is a tall order, and I may as well admit, right now, that I will fail. I believe the human capacity for culture comes not from some genes that co-evolved with human culture, but from a fortuitous set of preadaptations that suddenly endowed the human mind with an almost limitless capacity to accumulate and transmit ideas. Those preadaptations are underpinned by genes.” (p208 The Agile Gene)

    (as a reaction to Gould, p188-9)
    “…it is not just mistaken to base policy and morality on an assumption of malleable human nature, it is dangerous.” (quotes Pinker on why social scientists see any idea of human nature as an excuse for people doing bad things) “…There is nothing factually wrong with arguing that human beings are capable of learning, or being conditioned to associate stimuli, or reacting to reward and punishment or any other aspect of learning theory. These are facts and vital bricks in the wall I am building. But it does not follow that therefore human beings have no instincts, any more than it would follow that human beings are incapable of learning if they have instincts. Both can be true. The error is to be an either-or person…”

    Not being a biologist or geneticist I have some trouble with the finer points of the evolutionary psychology vs Gould et al debate. It seems like the sides disagree to a large extent on the evidence but to a larger degree in worldview. Gould is quoted in Ridley as saying no evidence exists to support genetic determinism, but it’s hard after reading Ridley and being familiar, at least on the surface, with Gould’s (amazing) work, to imagine Gould meant genes have no effect on our minds. Your Dusek article talks about Gould’s attacks on evolutionary psychology, but it doesn’t get across to me how or why a denial of selectionism, or any of the rest of his critique, is relevant to the cultural relativism debate.

  25. DeAnander:

    Nature, Nurture, Schmature, Schmurture…

    I think it’s a sterile debate, no pun intended.

    The degree to which our behaviours are triggered by adaptive (or once-was-adaptive) patterns from our deep primate past, is fascinating to discuss. I am all in favour of thinking and talking about genetic markers, the effects of hormones and various brain chemicals on behaviour, etc. But in the end the dazzling variety of human social behaviour worldwide suggests that we are capable, as kingroup and social animals, of coming up with many diverse creative solutions to the riddles of our genes and our oversize brains — and that the easy conflation of our contemporary or historical socially constructed norms and realities with “biological fact” is largely a copout.

    If our lives consisted entirely of the biological facts for which we evolved — for the vast majority of our species arc — then I wouldn’t be sitting artificially upright typing arbitrary characters onto a screen in response to people I have never seen, heard, or sniffed :-) … if we suggest that patriarchy is biologically determined by sexual dimorphism or selection behaviour among early hominids, then we are at a loss to explain cultures where land is owned and controlled mostly by women in matrilineal descent (Bougainville), where patriarchal authority over the nuclear family has never evolved or has been abandoned for adaptive reasons (Tikopia), where old women (surely the weakest and most expendable persons under patriarchy) exercise administrative and political power (five-nations confederacy) and so on. The dominance of the patriarchal wheat/beef cultures over all others during our last couple of millennia may possibly be just a phase.

    The problem with sociobiology is not that all of its claims are intrinsically bunk, imho, but that its claims are often selectively made as a apologia for existing conditions. The same accusation may be reversed and hurled at the radical anthropologist — Mead is a pet hate-object on the Right, for example, routinely accused of falsifying data, basing sweeping conclusions on small samples, etc. The interpretation of human/social behaviours is deeply ideological because it reflects or challenges our baseline assumptions about what is possible (and politics, remember, is the Art of the Possible, hence our assumptions about human nature define our politics).

    My $.02: Genes surely have some effect on our brains and hence on our minds, but so does chocolate :-) chocolate doesn’t really explain male supremacy and imho neither do our genes…

  26. Stan:

    De’s next book:

    “The Chocolate Thesis”

    (-:

  27. Julian Real:

    Hi Ben, and DeAnander, and Stan, and the other readers/posters here.

    This statement is in support of what DeAnander has been saying, and is directed to Ben.

    It is in two parts.

    Part 1:

    Ben, if “nature” is intricately involved in culture, in such a way as to determine what culture is and does, what is this “nature” you speak of, other than a social category some folks came up with to distinguish it from “culture”, often used and abused to “explain” (read: excuse) human beings’ atrocities as “inevitable social phenomena”?

    Aren’t human beings, “naturally” also capable of FEELING harm, viscerally, collectively, as damned painful, degrading, humiliating, terrifying, horrifying, suffering-inducing, maiming, and death-causing?

    What does it mean that people prefer to discuss atrocities, that are going on right now, precisely now, as I type this, as abstract ideas, rather than as searing pain in the vagina, rectum, or throat, of infants, toddlers, young girls and boys, teenage girls and boys, and many, many adult women, sometimes unknown women who are over 80, who are watching TV until the 30-something guy breaks in and assaults them?

    What are these mechanistically behaviour-ordering “genes” you speak of as possibly determining of our behaviour, when we know Barbara McClintock showed, already, that they are not at all “determining” (let alone commanding) in the way some politically patriarchal sociobiologists have argued, to allow themselves and other men to rape women with “objective, neutral, observed” science on their side–the side that wants to rape with impunity (not that rapists, generally, face real behaviour-altering consequences, of course)? Genes are factors (part of the stew), yes, but not stable ones: that is to say, they are adaptive, as humans are to “nature”.

    If genes are, in a meaningful sense, “in charge” of culture, how do we explain the following things:

    1. Heterosexual men of many Colours’ (only decades old) over-attraction to corporate pornographer/pimp’s airbrushed, digitally altered images of fingernail painted, eye area-make-uped, lip-reddened, tweezed, dyed-blond, hair-straightened, taut-hard breasted, vulva area-shaved, leg-shaved, armpit-shaved, stiletto-heeled, “born-female” human beings?

    2. How do we explain, “biologically”, “scientifically” a portion of those same hetero-males letting known “she-males” fellate their drunk-enough penises?

    3. How do we explain the increasing number of men who would rather spend their days and nights staring at those sorts of images than spending quality time with real human beings, like, say, their real human wives and real human children?

    4. Can you hear the screams of horror and cries of terror of women and children being raped right now? What are you doing to end that global atrocity, say, in your own community?

  28. Julian Real:

    Part 2:

    To Ben: How do you explain the following, scientifically?

    Written on 12/8/2005:

    Today is the 25th anniversary of Lennon being murdered by a “fan” who had an album autographed by John earlier in the same day (12/8/1980)–the same day that he later put four fatal bullets into the husband,father, writer, visual artist, and musician. (You may have heard of a little band from Liverpool… The Beatles?)

    John Lennon is a great example of someone who went from patriarch–batterer of his first wife and neglecter of his first child, to being a profoundly sensitive and equality-loving partner to his second wife, Yoko Ono, and an amazing primary parent to his second child, Sean, who was born on John’s 35th birthday. Yoko spent her days out of the home, in her office dealing with complex business affairs (that is to say, she was a normal non-primary working-outside-of-the-home parent).

    Withing a few years time, Lennon went from these lyrics, in “Run For Your Life”:

    “Well, I’d rather see you dead, little girl,
    than to be with another man”

    to these (from “Getting Better”):

    I used to be cruel to my woman
    I beat her and kept her from the
    Things that she loved
    Man I was mean but I’m changing my scene
    And I’m doing the best that I can.
    I admit it’s getting better
    A little better all the time

    To this:

    “Woman is the Nigger of the World”
    John Lennon & Yoko Ono

    Woman is the nigger of the world
    Yes she is…think about it
    Woman is the nigger of the world
    Think about it…do something about it

    We make her paint her face and dance
    If she won’t be a slave, we say that she don’t love us
    If she’s real, we say she’s trying to be a man
    While putting her down, we pretend that she’s above us

    Woman is the nigger of the world…yes she is
    If you don’t believe me, take a look at the one you’re with
    Woman is the slave of the slaves
    Ah, yeah…better scream about it

    For the rest of the lyrics, see:
    http://www.john-lennon.com/songlyrics/songs/Woman_is_the_Nigger_of_the_World.htm

    About his transformation, John said, in an interview, that he was even more feminist later in life, after writing that song with Yoko. It was in his last five years, 1975-1980, that he let his non-speech actions speak for themselves, by deeply respecting his partner, and caringly parenting his child.

    Let’s not forget that people can radically change, in a matter of a few years. Let’s hope society and its institutions can, as well, in our lifetime. I’ll close this post with Yoko and John’s other, more famous, song:

    Imagine
    by Yoko Ono and John Lennon
    (Live in NYC version)

    Imagine there’s no heaven
    It’s easy if you try
    No hell below us
    Above us only sky
    Imagine all the people
    Living for today…
    Imagine there’s no countries
    It isn’t hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religon too
    Imagine all the people
    Living life in peace…

    Imagine no possesions
    I wonder if you can
    No need for greed or hunger
    A brotherhood/sisterhood of man
    Imagine all the people
    Sharing all the world…

    You may say i’m a dreamer
    But i’m not the only one
    I hope some day you’ll join us
    And the world will be as one

    For more on John Lennon, see this site: http://www.john-lennon.com/

    I hope you are resting in peace, John.

    Love,

    Julian Real

  29. Yolanda Carrington:

    We make her bear and raise our children
    And then we leave her flat for being a fat old mother then
    We tell her home is the only place she would be
    Then we complain that she’s too unworldly to be our friend

    That’s exactly what he did to Cynthia. That he could go back and write about it later testfies to his immense gifts of self-reflection and honesty.

    I wish more of my childhood heroes had gotten to this place. Most of them are dead (directly or indirectly) ’cause of patriarchy.

    December 8 is important for me for another milestone: it is the birthday of James Douglas Morrison, a Southern-born European American man who drank himself to death at twenty-seven. For all his rebellion, he never could rebel against being a “real” man.

    More than his amazing talents of singing, songwriting, and performance, his lessons about whiteness, class privilege, and masculinity were a valuable gift to this poor southern Black girl.

    John and Jim, my fathers, rest in peace.
    love, Yolanda

  30. Charles Brown:

    Another point to add to this discussion. In the non-modern world, childbirth is the most exhausting and dangerous form of labor. Countless millions of women have died in childbirth, or from childbirth-related causes, and continue to do so. In South Asia, until very recently, more than fifty percent of adult female mortality was from childbirth or childbirth-related causes We in the modern world are inclined to forget how profoundly childbirth has shaped and continues to shape the female human condition. But it is obvious that the very first division of labor was gender-based, because women have always had to do the hard labor of childbirth, whereas men are, and have always been, free of this labor. Outside the realm of modern birth-control and childbirth-easing technologies, women are handicapped by NATURE. There is no getting around this fact. Men are therefore advantaged by nature, and they have used this initial advantage to increase their power over the rest of us, by, among other strategies, developing belief systems that make it the moral right of men to rule, and to monopolize social power.

    Comment by peggy — 12/1/2005 @ 6:42 pm

    ^^^^
    CB: I agree with peggy’s main point here.

    “We in the modern world are inclined to forget how profoundly childbirth has shaped and continues to shape the female human condition.”

    This is why Marx is correct in his statements (criticized on this blog as socalled naturalizing women) that the _original_ division of labor is based on sex. That is not naturalizing women more than naturalizing men, because inherent in that claim is that men have a biology that does not allow them to give birth or , on the otherhand, do not have the limitations of pregnancy and birth. That is a statement about the biology of men just as much as a statement about the biology of women. Women and men are biological complements. Marx is fully aware that with the progress of technology it becomes more feasible for women not to be so limited by childbirth, but objectively, in human history, biology of male and female has contributed to shaping the social roles.

    There’s another important point. Children are very important in the obvious sense of perpetuating the group or species. It makes sense pracically, to have a division of labor with “specialists” in childrearing. There is nothing inherently oppressive in this division of labor. As I have written several times, the best evidence from anthroplogy is that there was equivialence of status between women and men. Given the importance of children, and tracing the family through women, there is even an argument that women had higher status than men in ancient society.

  31. Pat R.:

    Exceptional logic, brilliant delivery, and very worthy of merit.

    Like obscenity, people can recognize truth when they see it.

    Thanks.

  32. Pat R.:

    A scholarly assessment of the conditions of women today, and yesterday. Women haven’t been incorporated into the society of men as yet as economically legitmated, and the world still resides at best on a sytem where women are off-ramped and men are on-ramped.

    There has yet to be a dual-gendered view of the world that works, and few are addressing it as anything but a nusisance to progress, because progress is measured in terms of profits, not quality of life for everyone.

    Social justice in such a world cannot exist, and doesn’t hold much clout as an important function.

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