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		<title>By: Emerson</title>
		<link>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2006/02/05/death-and-settling-for-less/#comment-205093</link>
		<dc:creator>Emerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 04:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So much for the infamous and nefarious &quot;death clock&quot; web site. When I had a Myspace webpage I had this self-proclamed &quot;goddess&quot; on there that tried to &quot;motivate&quot; (but it was more like frighten) everyone into &quot;achieving&quot; their dreams before the &quot;clock&quot; ran out like you absolutly HAD to do it THAT day...&quot;or else&quot;. It was absolutly insane. Only very few of us get to have that &quot;one hit wonder&quot;, hit that home run in the World Series, or win the lotto. 

It was enough that we won the spermozoa trout race to fertilize our mother&#039;s egg to get born into this world. Some of us have to go through shit to get to the gold, some just get shit and that&#039;s it. 

It&#039;s said that by the time you&#039;re 4 years old, you already decide what you&#039;re going to be. I fell in love with music about that age and I ended up being a damn good guitar player, that&#039;s done a few things that a lot don&#039;t necessicarily do, having experience in all types of music. I live in Orlando Fl. and by a silly course of events last weekend I had an opportunity to sit in with a very well known recording act that was in town to promote their lastest c.d. with an unplugged concert set. These guys are young and here I am in my 50&#039;s &quot;on paper&quot; playing with these young hot guns. ..ALL BY CHANCE. 

If I never get any closer to &quot;the big time&quot; it&#039;ll be all right, as far as I&#039;m concerned, I&#039;ve lived the life of a &quot;rock star&quot; the only difference between me and them is the money and that, in the end, you can&#039;t take with you. You gotta love your life and stay true to yourself, and that&#039;s it, because it&#039;s a big enough job being a sucessful human being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much for the infamous and nefarious &#8220;death clock&#8221; web site. When I had a Myspace webpage I had this self-proclamed &#8220;goddess&#8221; on there that tried to &#8220;motivate&#8221; (but it was more like frighten) everyone into &#8220;achieving&#8221; their dreams before the &#8220;clock&#8221; ran out like you absolutly HAD to do it THAT day&#8230;&#8221;or else&#8221;. It was absolutly insane. Only very few of us get to have that &#8220;one hit wonder&#8221;, hit that home run in the World Series, or win the lotto. </p>
<p>It was enough that we won the spermozoa trout race to fertilize our mother&#8217;s egg to get born into this world. Some of us have to go through shit to get to the gold, some just get shit and that&#8217;s it. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s said that by the time you&#8217;re 4 years old, you already decide what you&#8217;re going to be. I fell in love with music about that age and I ended up being a damn good guitar player, that&#8217;s done a few things that a lot don&#8217;t necessicarily do, having experience in all types of music. I live in Orlando Fl. and by a silly course of events last weekend I had an opportunity to sit in with a very well known recording act that was in town to promote their lastest c.d. with an unplugged concert set. These guys are young and here I am in my 50&#8242;s &#8220;on paper&#8221; playing with these young hot guns. ..ALL BY CHANCE. </p>
<p>If I never get any closer to &#8220;the big time&#8221; it&#8217;ll be all right, as far as I&#8217;m concerned, I&#8217;ve lived the life of a &#8220;rock star&#8221; the only difference between me and them is the money and that, in the end, you can&#8217;t take with you. You gotta love your life and stay true to yourself, and that&#8217;s it, because it&#8217;s a big enough job being a sucessful human being.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Withey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Withey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 16:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe everything everybody says about alot of things.
     My general approach to life is to consider the information and opinions I receive very carefully in order to make the best choices. Let me explain.
     I do not agree with everything that Stan Goff or anyone else says.  I think this article has many good sentiments expressed, but I am unconvinced that the basic premise (my interpretation) is true.  
     Even though I am not a scientist, I believe I have enough general understanding of science and our world to be confident that scientists are not infallible, or at the end of their dicoveries.  I hope I never foget that.
     I am conscious enough right now and hopefully for as long as possible to believe that humans are not relegated to some depressing &quot;fading out&quot; fate that might have been stated in this article.  To be honest with you, I think it&#039;s quite possible for humans to eventually leave this planet and explore space. Of course we have to survive our conflicts in order to do so.  How long humans can extend life based on their understanding of the unverse we don&#039;t know.  I just don&#039;t think we should believe that our efforts to raise children for a better future has somedefinite ending point.
     The decisions we make here and now all effect the future progress of human life (and other life as well).  To all those who court a future of despair and negativity, I justly say &quot;Ciao&quot;.  That being said, criticism  adds to our health as we find our bearings on our compass.
     I appreciate the chance to contibute to the debate, and for that I thank the open forum you&#039;ve provided.  Best to everyone from the Evergreen State.  I think I&#039;ll still use the y instead of the ee at the end of my name so potential employers who aren&#039;t progressive can&#039;t google me and reject me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe everything everybody says about alot of things.<br />
     My general approach to life is to consider the information and opinions I receive very carefully in order to make the best choices. Let me explain.<br />
     I do not agree with everything that Stan Goff or anyone else says.  I think this article has many good sentiments expressed, but I am unconvinced that the basic premise (my interpretation) is true.<br />
     Even though I am not a scientist, I believe I have enough general understanding of science and our world to be confident that scientists are not infallible, or at the end of their dicoveries.  I hope I never foget that.<br />
     I am conscious enough right now and hopefully for as long as possible to believe that humans are not relegated to some depressing &#8220;fading out&#8221; fate that might have been stated in this article.  To be honest with you, I think it&#8217;s quite possible for humans to eventually leave this planet and explore space. Of course we have to survive our conflicts in order to do so.  How long humans can extend life based on their understanding of the unverse we don&#8217;t know.  I just don&#8217;t think we should believe that our efforts to raise children for a better future has somedefinite ending point.<br />
     The decisions we make here and now all effect the future progress of human life (and other life as well).  To all those who court a future of despair and negativity, I justly say &#8220;Ciao&#8221;.  That being said, criticism  adds to our health as we find our bearings on our compass.<br />
     I appreciate the chance to contibute to the debate, and for that I thank the open forum you&#8217;ve provided.  Best to everyone from the Evergreen State.  I think I&#8217;ll still use the y instead of the ee at the end of my name so potential employers who aren&#8217;t progressive can&#8217;t google me and reject me.</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t know where to post, but I&#039;ll start here; My lady was robbed at gunpoint last night by five little shits who snuck up behind her and smashed her in the head with a pistol. One of them grabbed her from behind and the smallest of them shoved the pistol into her chest and demanded her money. She told them that she didn&#039;t have any cash, so they snatched her purse and smashed her in the face with the gun, like five fucking times. She was talking to me on her cellphone when this happened, while I was two crow miles away, so you can imagine the rage I felt when I heard her cry out. I&#039;m ready to kill.
It won&#039;t happen, but I&#039;ve been jumped twice in ten years here, and never in my life did I think that this would happen to her. She was the one who turned me on to your writing. A little background is in order. She is a brown girl, a writer in grad school, social justice being her prime interest. Her parents emigrated here from Sri Lanka in the 70s and set-up shop in Watts. Her baby crib was the top dresser drawer in her parents bedroom.
I&#039;m a white guy from NJ, spent 4 years with 3/505pir, moved to the west coast a little over fifteen years ago, working in the trades since I was fifteen.
So, what I am I supposed to think about five teenagers who think it&#039;s all cool and &quot;gangsta&quot; to beat the shit out of a 5&#039;2&quot; girl on her way home from school? How am I supposed to move forward in my perception of this world of color? Why the fuck did these punks have to hit my girl? Why?! Who teaches them that this is cool?! I&#039;m fucking furious about the issue of violence against women by men. What do I do now? Grab my mossberg and go headhunting? Stand outside on grand Ave in oakland and say, &quot;If you commit an act of violence against a woman, then, in reality, you&#039;re just a big fucking pussy!&quot; What? Yell at them-curse out their parents? Break every finger slowly? Cut their dicks off? What is the solution to this. I couldn&#039;t lay a hand on these kids, because I&#039;d wind up killing them. It&#039;s said that violence begets violence, but my lady and I do not deserve this. Easy to see why someone in Baghdad would feel the same way against our country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t know where to post, but I&#8217;ll start here; My lady was robbed at gunpoint last night by five little shits who snuck up behind her and smashed her in the head with a pistol. One of them grabbed her from behind and the smallest of them shoved the pistol into her chest and demanded her money. She told them that she didn&#8217;t have any cash, so they snatched her purse and smashed her in the face with the gun, like five fucking times. She was talking to me on her cellphone when this happened, while I was two crow miles away, so you can imagine the rage I felt when I heard her cry out. I&#8217;m ready to kill.<br />
It won&#8217;t happen, but I&#8217;ve been jumped twice in ten years here, and never in my life did I think that this would happen to her. She was the one who turned me on to your writing. A little background is in order. She is a brown girl, a writer in grad school, social justice being her prime interest. Her parents emigrated here from Sri Lanka in the 70s and set-up shop in Watts. Her baby crib was the top dresser drawer in her parents bedroom.<br />
I&#8217;m a white guy from NJ, spent 4 years with 3/505pir, moved to the west coast a little over fifteen years ago, working in the trades since I was fifteen.<br />
So, what I am I supposed to think about five teenagers who think it&#8217;s all cool and &#8220;gangsta&#8221; to beat the shit out of a 5&#8217;2&#8243; girl on her way home from school? How am I supposed to move forward in my perception of this world of color? Why the fuck did these punks have to hit my girl? Why?! Who teaches them that this is cool?! I&#8217;m fucking furious about the issue of violence against women by men. What do I do now? Grab my mossberg and go headhunting? Stand outside on grand Ave in oakland and say, &#8220;If you commit an act of violence against a woman, then, in reality, you&#8217;re just a big fucking pussy!&#8221; What? Yell at them-curse out their parents? Break every finger slowly? Cut their dicks off? What is the solution to this. I couldn&#8217;t lay a hand on these kids, because I&#8217;d wind up killing them. It&#8217;s said that violence begets violence, but my lady and I do not deserve this. Easy to see why someone in Baghdad would feel the same way against our country.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 07:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is good to read your article and then other people&#039;s reactions to it.  It makes me feel understood and understanding.</description>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 03:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Above from the Real Physics blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 03:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Feminist Mistake

Heard this morning that Betty Friedan, author of The Feminine Mystique and founder of the National Organization of Women (NOW), died yesterday at 85.

NPR interviewed Eleanor Smeal who worked with Friedan to start NOW. Smeal of course eulogized Friedan. She praised Friedan&#039;s legacy and lauded her as (I quote from memory) &quot;a giant of the twentieth century.&quot;

Yes, like Joseph Stalin.

And the comparison is not histrionic. Since 1973, when the U.S. Supreme Court declared open season on the unborn by making abortion legal through all nine months of pregnancy, 42 million unborn American children have been stifledâ€”with their mothers&#039; consent. Friedan was one of the voices who helped enable this maternal self-immolation and mass murder.1 While there is more than likely some silver lining to Friedan&#039;s influence (as with almost anything), what can redeem the deaths of so many innocent livesâ€”not to mention the social disintergration accompanying the dissolution of the family?2

I wasn&#039;t surprised when Ms Smeal mentioned Friedan&#039;s support for &quot;gay rights&quot; from 1978. If women are equivalent to men and if sexual differences are exploitative, then why not let men exploit other men sexually? As Marx&#039;s friend Engels said so many years ago: it&#039;s all about power anyway.3

As we all must, Ms Friedan has passed from this earth to her eternal reward. I&#039;ll resist the urge to lead a chorus of &quot;Ding dong! The Witch Is Dead,&quot; but I can&#039;t help observing that her passing inspires hope that her baneful influence will similarly recede into the past, laid to rest among the antiquated ideologies that made the twentieth century such a nightmare.
Notes

1. Friedan wasn&#039;t initially pro-abortion (she had to be persuaded by the founders of NARAL of the consistency of abortion with her anti-feminine positions), but she did so early enough in the abortion &quot;rights&quot; movement to have made a substantial difference. The first feminists, who valued the truly feminine, were naturally pro-life.

2. More on Fredan and on the tremendous importance of motherhood: Mothers Know Best.

3. The natural question to ask Engels then is &quot;what power do you hope to gain by this observation?&quot; Logically, the ideology is self-defeating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Feminist Mistake</p>
<p>Heard this morning that Betty Friedan, author of The Feminine Mystique and founder of the National Organization of Women (NOW), died yesterday at 85.</p>
<p>NPR interviewed Eleanor Smeal who worked with Friedan to start NOW. Smeal of course eulogized Friedan. She praised Friedan&#8217;s legacy and lauded her as (I quote from memory) &#8220;a giant of the twentieth century.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, like Joseph Stalin.</p>
<p>And the comparison is not histrionic. Since 1973, when the U.S. Supreme Court declared open season on the unborn by making abortion legal through all nine months of pregnancy, 42 million unborn American children have been stifledâ€”with their mothers&#8217; consent. Friedan was one of the voices who helped enable this maternal self-immolation and mass murder.1 While there is more than likely some silver lining to Friedan&#8217;s influence (as with almost anything), what can redeem the deaths of so many innocent livesâ€”not to mention the social disintergration accompanying the dissolution of the family?2</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t surprised when Ms Smeal mentioned Friedan&#8217;s support for &#8220;gay rights&#8221; from 1978. If women are equivalent to men and if sexual differences are exploitative, then why not let men exploit other men sexually? As Marx&#8217;s friend Engels said so many years ago: it&#8217;s all about power anyway.3</p>
<p>As we all must, Ms Friedan has passed from this earth to her eternal reward. I&#8217;ll resist the urge to lead a chorus of &#8220;Ding dong! The Witch Is Dead,&#8221; but I can&#8217;t help observing that her passing inspires hope that her baneful influence will similarly recede into the past, laid to rest among the antiquated ideologies that made the twentieth century such a nightmare.<br />
Notes</p>
<p>1. Friedan wasn&#8217;t initially pro-abortion (she had to be persuaded by the founders of NARAL of the consistency of abortion with her anti-feminine positions), but she did so early enough in the abortion &#8220;rights&#8221; movement to have made a substantial difference. The first feminists, who valued the truly feminine, were naturally pro-life.</p>
<p>2. More on Fredan and on the tremendous importance of motherhood: Mothers Know Best.</p>
<p>3. The natural question to ask Engels then is &#8220;what power do you hope to gain by this observation?&#8221; Logically, the ideology is self-defeating.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2006 00:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Nihilist and Theocrat both insist to know the truth about what they have nary a clue. In reaction to the fundamentalists it is easy to think that the only answers are yes, no, and not sure.Here are so many other possibilities and a few are at least partially discoverable.

When we find and answer a previous unknown it is almost always (at least in part) an unexpected possibility, and an incomplete answer that produces more questions than answers. There is no reason to think this is any less so with the answers we do not have. The Musashi &quot;no-style&quot; style of reacting to the reality rather than any preconception or plan (though not without planning and deep understanding)is a difficult path but the one I am trying to favor.

Your Philosophical long view is its own irrelevancy, the moments stack upon each other, but the memories and results in you and others last far beyond their place in the stack. When the earth is gone, no one aware then (another species or planet) will likely know or care. But in the much nearer term there are many who could be affected for good or not.

In a much nearer political reality the democracy we knew (such as it was) has been overthrown. Many liberals are thinking that the next elections will be a slam dunk, the corruption is out in the open, the polls are setting new records.

 Just like the last three elections the next will go supprisingly Republican even though the exit polls will again likely go heavily Democrat. THe MSM will tut tut about the inaccuracy of polls and how they should be abandonded. But what are real Patriots to do?

Where elections reflect exit polls, third party ideas are worse than futile, not because the Democrats are good enough, but because the two party system is like the laws of thermodynamics, untill there is not a winner take all, the math is unassailable. Even if the third party got 80% of votes that would be Democrat, both would be split enough to lose. The only option is to become the Democrats, and that means a long fight to reclaim the party. but that is the first step to changing the rules so that such is not necessary.

THe Bigger quandry is when the exit polls are not similar to any vote count. Then there are only two bad options. Both are ruinous for all. The Iraqi way is the way expected by the Bushists and the way they are prepared for. 

The Velvet way will be very long against a propaganda drowning of the reality. Both King and Gandi were supported by a free press that was eager to announce the conflict and take pictures. Also now there are technologies Hitler would have wet dreams about.

In short we are truly F**Ked, and will take a long fight by really creative people ready to endure much horror before it turns around. It is small wonder so many Democrats quale in the breech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Nihilist and Theocrat both insist to know the truth about what they have nary a clue. In reaction to the fundamentalists it is easy to think that the only answers are yes, no, and not sure.Here are so many other possibilities and a few are at least partially discoverable.</p>
<p>When we find and answer a previous unknown it is almost always (at least in part) an unexpected possibility, and an incomplete answer that produces more questions than answers. There is no reason to think this is any less so with the answers we do not have. The Musashi &#8220;no-style&#8221; style of reacting to the reality rather than any preconception or plan (though not without planning and deep understanding)is a difficult path but the one I am trying to favor.</p>
<p>Your Philosophical long view is its own irrelevancy, the moments stack upon each other, but the memories and results in you and others last far beyond their place in the stack. When the earth is gone, no one aware then (another species or planet) will likely know or care. But in the much nearer term there are many who could be affected for good or not.</p>
<p>In a much nearer political reality the democracy we knew (such as it was) has been overthrown. Many liberals are thinking that the next elections will be a slam dunk, the corruption is out in the open, the polls are setting new records.</p>
<p> Just like the last three elections the next will go supprisingly Republican even though the exit polls will again likely go heavily Democrat. THe MSM will tut tut about the inaccuracy of polls and how they should be abandonded. But what are real Patriots to do?</p>
<p>Where elections reflect exit polls, third party ideas are worse than futile, not because the Democrats are good enough, but because the two party system is like the laws of thermodynamics, untill there is not a winner take all, the math is unassailable. Even if the third party got 80% of votes that would be Democrat, both would be split enough to lose. The only option is to become the Democrats, and that means a long fight to reclaim the party. but that is the first step to changing the rules so that such is not necessary.</p>
<p>THe Bigger quandry is when the exit polls are not similar to any vote count. Then there are only two bad options. Both are ruinous for all. The Iraqi way is the way expected by the Bushists and the way they are prepared for. </p>
<p>The Velvet way will be very long against a propaganda drowning of the reality. Both King and Gandi were supported by a free press that was eager to announce the conflict and take pictures. Also now there are technologies Hitler would have wet dreams about.</p>
<p>In short we are truly F**Ked, and will take a long fight by really creative people ready to endure much horror before it turns around. It is small wonder so many Democrats quale in the breech.</p>
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		<title>By: Neilcaff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neilcaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last sentence should say I hope I&#039;m NOT sentamentalising... etc</description>
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		<title>By: Neilcaff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neilcaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started reading this the day you posted it on Monday only to be interupted by the news the young brother of a dear friend of mine had died in an accident. I only got as far as the point about how insignificant we are in the greater scheme of things. I think this point was brought home quite forefully. One minute I was thinking about the mundane things in my life (blank cheques to infinity anyone?) the next I&#039;m struggling with the difficulties of getting a flight to a remote part of Ireland in under 12 hours.
I&#039;m still surprised by my own feeling at the time. I didn&#039;t know the deceased that well although I am very close to his sister. It was partly because I knew how much his family loved him that I was upset but mostly because he was a young man in the prime of his life, always full of life and energy whenever I met him and now all of a sudden he&#039;d been erased in some random happening.
Since I returned today I&#039;ve read what you&#039;ve said about our relatonships with each other giving our existance meaning. It crystalised things I was feeling at the funeral but couldn&#039;t articulate (I guess this must be what you mean about the difference between knowing things intellectually and viscerally). The funeral was in a small farming community. It sent a shockwave through the town and countryside. The turn out was massive but I could almost feel the bonds between all the mourners. The deceased himself had been well liked around the town and the family were well respected. Not because they were sucessful or influential or some kind of paragons of virtue. Simply because if you needed a hand with anything one of them would surely do what was needed. The beautiful thing for me to see was how so many people in the community broke their backs to help the family in their grief because they had been helped by some member of the family before. I think these bonds were always a latent thing expressed as pleasantries in conversation and such in normal times but it seemed that when everyone had The End viscerally presented to them its as if those bonds sprung to life to wrap around each other. 
I hope I&#039;m sentamentalising a tragedy but what you wrote in the second half of your piece Stan really resonated with what I&#039;ve seen in the last few days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started reading this the day you posted it on Monday only to be interupted by the news the young brother of a dear friend of mine had died in an accident. I only got as far as the point about how insignificant we are in the greater scheme of things. I think this point was brought home quite forefully. One minute I was thinking about the mundane things in my life (blank cheques to infinity anyone?) the next I&#8217;m struggling with the difficulties of getting a flight to a remote part of Ireland in under 12 hours.<br />
I&#8217;m still surprised by my own feeling at the time. I didn&#8217;t know the deceased that well although I am very close to his sister. It was partly because I knew how much his family loved him that I was upset but mostly because he was a young man in the prime of his life, always full of life and energy whenever I met him and now all of a sudden he&#8217;d been erased in some random happening.<br />
Since I returned today I&#8217;ve read what you&#8217;ve said about our relatonships with each other giving our existance meaning. It crystalised things I was feeling at the funeral but couldn&#8217;t articulate (I guess this must be what you mean about the difference between knowing things intellectually and viscerally). The funeral was in a small farming community. It sent a shockwave through the town and countryside. The turn out was massive but I could almost feel the bonds between all the mourners. The deceased himself had been well liked around the town and the family were well respected. Not because they were sucessful or influential or some kind of paragons of virtue. Simply because if you needed a hand with anything one of them would surely do what was needed. The beautiful thing for me to see was how so many people in the community broke their backs to help the family in their grief because they had been helped by some member of the family before. I think these bonds were always a latent thing expressed as pleasantries in conversation and such in normal times but it seemed that when everyone had The End viscerally presented to them its as if those bonds sprung to life to wrap around each other.<br />
I hope I&#8217;m sentamentalising a tragedy but what you wrote in the second half of your piece Stan really resonated with what I&#8217;ve seen in the last few days.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert B. Livingston</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Stan Goff,

    Is it any coincidence that one such as yourself who has such a stubborn and powerful interest in the problems of war and peace should compose such a beautiful and thoughtful essay on the challenge of being human?  I am naturally reminded of my favorite author, Erich Fromm, who wrote:  &quot;today there is only one concern:  the question of war and peace.... If we should all perish... it will not be because man was not capable of becoming human, or that he was inherently evil; it would be because the consensus of stupidity has prevented him from seeing reality and acting upon the truth.&quot;

And what is the truth?  Possibly a dimension beyond our mental grasp--  a function all the great minds have sought -- some perhaps coming closer to it than others?  (E.F. Schumacher had some interesting things to say about that).

Yet Fromm believed that truth is primarily a matter of character, not intelligence:  &quot;the courage to say /no/, to disobey the commands of power and public opinion, to cease being asleep and to become human; to wake up and lose the sense of helplessness and futility.&quot;

To have hope rid of illusions.  As one commentator here wrote, hope arrived from Pandora&#039;s box with all the plagues.  

Fromm wrote c. 1962:  &quot;reason cannot be effective unless man has hope and belief.  Goethe was right when he said that the deepest distinction between various historical periods is that between belief and disbelief, and when he added that all epochs in which belief dominates are brilliant, uplifting and fruitful, while those in which disbelief dominates vanish because nobody cares to devote himself to the unfruitful.&quot;  A little dense, perhaps, but do you see where that is going?

Fromm is a very important writer to me.  I wish his books were more popular than they are.  After 9/11, his book The Anatomy of Human Destructiveness took on an added significance for me-- it has helped me to feel my way through this benighted and confusing period of time in which we now find ourselves.  I would go further to say, that Fromm&#039;s influence on my thinking has steered me to writers such as yourself.  (Martin Luther King Jr. reminded us that candles burn brightest in the dark.)

Sincerely,

Robert B. Livingston
San Francisco
(referenced:  Fromm, Erich. &quot;Credo,&quot; Beyond the Chains of Illusion: My Encounter with Marx and Freud. Continuum. pp. 174 - 182.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Stan Goff,</p>
<p>    Is it any coincidence that one such as yourself who has such a stubborn and powerful interest in the problems of war and peace should compose such a beautiful and thoughtful essay on the challenge of being human?  I am naturally reminded of my favorite author, Erich Fromm, who wrote:  &#8220;today there is only one concern:  the question of war and peace&#8230;. If we should all perish&#8230; it will not be because man was not capable of becoming human, or that he was inherently evil; it would be because the consensus of stupidity has prevented him from seeing reality and acting upon the truth.&#8221;</p>
<p>And what is the truth?  Possibly a dimension beyond our mental grasp&#8211;  a function all the great minds have sought &#8212; some perhaps coming closer to it than others?  (E.F. Schumacher had some interesting things to say about that).</p>
<p>Yet Fromm believed that truth is primarily a matter of character, not intelligence:  &#8220;the courage to say /no/, to disobey the commands of power and public opinion, to cease being asleep and to become human; to wake up and lose the sense of helplessness and futility.&#8221;</p>
<p>To have hope rid of illusions.  As one commentator here wrote, hope arrived from Pandora&#8217;s box with all the plagues.  </p>
<p>Fromm wrote c. 1962:  &#8220;reason cannot be effective unless man has hope and belief.  Goethe was right when he said that the deepest distinction between various historical periods is that between belief and disbelief, and when he added that all epochs in which belief dominates are brilliant, uplifting and fruitful, while those in which disbelief dominates vanish because nobody cares to devote himself to the unfruitful.&#8221;  A little dense, perhaps, but do you see where that is going?</p>
<p>Fromm is a very important writer to me.  I wish his books were more popular than they are.  After 9/11, his book The Anatomy of Human Destructiveness took on an added significance for me&#8211; it has helped me to feel my way through this benighted and confusing period of time in which we now find ourselves.  I would go further to say, that Fromm&#8217;s influence on my thinking has steered me to writers such as yourself.  (Martin Luther King Jr. reminded us that candles burn brightest in the dark.)</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Robert B. Livingston<br />
San Francisco<br />
(referenced:  Fromm, Erich. &#8220;Credo,&#8221; Beyond the Chains of Illusion: My Encounter with Marx and Freud. Continuum. pp. 174 &#8211; 182.)</p>
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