Comments on: Eating and drinking oil http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2006/06/28/eating-and-drinking-oil/ Making the Connections Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:31:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Comandante Gringo http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2006/06/28/eating-and-drinking-oil/#comment-18993 Comandante Gringo Wed, 12 Jul 2006 02:57:25 +0000 http://feralscholar.org/blog/?p=313#comment-18993 Contrary to official dogma -- and access and funding -- the jury's still out on the 'Big Bang' vs. 'Steady State' theories of the Universe. And no way did 2 planes take down 3 buildings -- the 2 targets being also the STRONGEST, most massive buildings in the world. They fell like empty, talcum powder sandcastles, didn't they? And so the Left remains divided. That's also quite some sequence of non sequiturs, there, jumping around thru all these conspiracy theories, tarring them all with 'guilt by association' logic. Contrary to official dogma — and access and funding — the jury’s still out on the ‘Big Bang’ vs. ‘Steady State’ theories of the Universe. And no way did 2 planes take down 3 buildings — the 2 targets being also the STRONGEST, most massive buildings in the world. They fell like empty, talcum powder sandcastles, didn’t they?

And so the Left remains divided.

That’s also quite some sequence of non sequiturs, there, jumping around thru all these conspiracy theories, tarring them all with ‘guilt by association’ logic.

]]> By: Sam http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2006/06/28/eating-and-drinking-oil/#comment-18977 Sam Wed, 12 Jul 2006 00:18:38 +0000 http://feralscholar.org/blog/?p=313#comment-18977 More commentary on Palast at: http://www.energybulletin.net/17914.html More commentary on Palast at:

http://www.energybulletin.net/17914.html

]]> By: Sam http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2006/06/28/eating-and-drinking-oil/#comment-18975 Sam Wed, 12 Jul 2006 00:17:30 +0000 http://feralscholar.org/blog/?p=313#comment-18975 Here's the second part of Palast's take on peak oil: http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=506&row=1 He's wrong, of course, but he's influential. Richard Heinberg just wrote an excellent open letter to him: http://www.energybulletin.net/17914.html Here’s the second part of Palast’s take on peak oil:

http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=506&row=1

He’s wrong, of course, but he’s influential. Richard Heinberg just wrote an excellent open letter to him:

http://www.energybulletin.net/17914.html

]]> By: Sam http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2006/06/28/eating-and-drinking-oil/#comment-18957 Sam Tue, 11 Jul 2006 18:11:31 +0000 http://feralscholar.org/blog/?p=313#comment-18957 Actually, Palast's remarks are in two parts; here's the first part: http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=505&row=1 Actually, Palast’s remarks are in two parts; here’s the first part:

http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=505&row=1

]]> By: lapetrov http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2006/06/28/eating-and-drinking-oil/#comment-18552 lapetrov Thu, 06 Jul 2006 22:28:46 +0000 http://feralscholar.org/blog/?p=313#comment-18552 Better batten down the hatches, oh wait, that's for at sea! ...if we're gonna be spinning faster, gravity is sure to change. The crazy thing is you know if they could somehow swing that -squeeze a few more drops by changing the earth's rotation speed, they'd do it! -no matter what the greater cost to the world or its inhabitants might be. And "they" are not the ones trying to achieve "walmart life" -they're the ones trying to keep their "champagne wishes and caviar dreams." It's a sick mentality of single-minded greed, that is about to kick into high-gear. Demand is up, supply is stagnant; prices and profits increase. And we -the little people- are screwed. Am I understanding it right? Better batten down the hatches, oh wait, that’s for at sea! …if we’re gonna be spinning faster, gravity is sure to change.

The crazy thing is you know if they could somehow swing that -squeeze a few more drops by changing the earth’s rotation speed, they’d do it! -no matter what the greater cost to the world or its inhabitants might be. And “they” are not the ones trying to achieve “walmart life” -they’re the ones trying to keep their “champagne wishes and caviar dreams.”

It’s a sick mentality of single-minded greed, that is about to kick into high-gear. Demand is up, supply is stagnant; prices and profits increase. And we -the little people- are screwed. Am I understanding it right?

]]> By: Stan http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2006/06/28/eating-and-drinking-oil/#comment-18549 Stan Thu, 06 Jul 2006 21:31:17 +0000 http://feralscholar.org/blog/?p=313#comment-18549 Giles spends most of his time denying global warming, but I see he's found a new pasttime -- disseminating the deeply-debunked gibbery of Thomas Gold. http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/011205_no_free_pt2.shtml Gold also postulated a "steady-state" universe and moon dust that would prevent spacecraft from landing there. What is unfortunate is that people on both sides of this debate are employing illogical arguments, and positing conspiracy theories. Peak oil-ers sometimes subscribe the US-planned 9-11 notion. Abioticoids claim peak oil is plot by oil companies to raise prices (forgetting that no one would buy oil stock if that were true, and that oil companies are the most vocal in denying peak oil). The science, however, is quite clear and massively available online. The claim by abioticians that peakers are saying we will run out is false. http://www.energybulletin.net/primer.php Discovery has been in precipitous decline for 35 years, in spite of ever more aggressive exploration with every better technology. I guess we'll have to speed up the earth's rotation to centrifugate some more of Gold's abiotic oil within reach of the drills. Per capita consumption has fallen, while demand has risen. Do the math. Giles spends most of his time denying global warming, but I see he’s found a new pasttime — disseminating the deeply-debunked gibbery of Thomas Gold.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/011205_no_free_pt2.shtml

Gold also postulated a “steady-state” universe and moon dust that would prevent spacecraft from landing there.

What is unfortunate is that people on both sides of this debate are employing illogical arguments, and positing conspiracy theories. Peak oil-ers sometimes subscribe the US-planned 9-11 notion. Abioticoids claim peak oil is plot by oil companies to raise prices (forgetting that no one would buy oil stock if that were true, and that oil companies are the most vocal in denying peak oil).

The science, however, is quite clear and massively available online. The claim by abioticians that peakers are saying we will run out is false.

http://www.energybulletin.net/primer.php

Discovery has been in precipitous decline for 35 years, in spite of ever more aggressive exploration with every better technology. I guess we’ll have to speed up the earth’s rotation to centrifugate some more of Gold’s abiotic oil within reach of the drills.

Per capita consumption has fallen, while demand has risen. Do the math.

]]> By: Jorge http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2006/06/28/eating-and-drinking-oil/#comment-18547 Jorge Thu, 06 Jul 2006 20:08:30 +0000 http://feralscholar.org/blog/?p=313#comment-18547 Peak Oil article at Lew Rockwell: http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig6/giles6.html Non Peak Oil by George Giles Peak Oil article at Lew Rockwell:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig6/giles6.html

Non Peak Oil

by George Giles

]]> By: jay taber http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2006/06/28/eating-and-drinking-oil/#comment-17660 jay taber Thu, 29 Jun 2006 00:45:08 +0000 http://feralscholar.org/blog/?p=313#comment-17660 If you can get your hands on a copy of the 2002 film War & Peace by Bombay filmmaker Anand Patwardhan, you won't be disappointed. If you can get your hands on a copy of the 2002 film War & Peace by Bombay filmmaker Anand Patwardhan, you won’t be disappointed.

]]> By: Sam http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2006/06/28/eating-and-drinking-oil/#comment-17657 Sam Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:41:51 +0000 http://feralscholar.org/blog/?p=313#comment-17657 Let me propose a simplified and only partial answer: after the fall, Adam and Eve realized they were naked, and were ashamed. Similarly, independent India, China, and other non-industrialized countries realized they were not developed--machine and technologically speaking--they felt primitive, backward--naked--and were ashamed. The West is beginning to understand that the great experiment is fundamentally suicidal--not the governments of course, but certain elements. As for the East, they still want to experience the Wal-mart life. Let me propose a simplified and only partial answer: after the fall, Adam and Eve realized they were naked, and were ashamed. Similarly, independent India, China, and other non-industrialized countries realized they were not developed–machine and technologically speaking–they felt primitive, backward–naked–and were ashamed. The West is beginning to understand that the great experiment is fundamentally suicidal–not the governments of course, but certain elements. As for the East, they still want to experience the Wal-mart life.

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