From Julian - Guest Post (Marriage)


7/20/2006

Is Marriage Racist? Radical Queer Perspectives

This entry contains two separate bodies of writing. Section 1 is by Mattie U. Richardson, PhD, Priya Kandaswamy, PhD (almost!), and Marlon M. Bailey, PhD. Section 2 contains some of my own (radical, profeminist, queer) thoughts on the subject of marriage.

I (Julian) would like to publicly thank Dr. Richardson, (very soon to be) Dr. Kandaswamy, and Dr. Bailey for this first section, which is entirely their writing, not mine. Their work is titled “Is Gay Marriage Racist?” I came upon it in the book “That’s Revolting! Queer Strategies for Resisting Assimilation”, edited by Mattilda, aka Matt Bernstein Sycamore, who also holds the copyright (2004). Mattilda/Matt is also a contributor to the collection of intellectually rigorous, politically liberal to radical writings by people of many communities and ethnicities. It was printed in Canada, was published by Soft Skull Press, Brooklyn, NY, and was distributed by Publishers Group West. I have contacted all three authors to make sure they are fine with their work being put on this blog-site, in this way. They have each given me their permission to do so.

Immediately below is information about the authors of this (personally, to me) extraordinarily useful question-and-answer formatted discussion. Their bios are accurate as of July, 2006. I have typed up what is listed with each of their names as the information appears in the back of the book, That’s Revolting! and added additional biographical information, provided to me by each of the authors.

I cannot find another more succinct, politically astute, and significant contribution anywhere else. I believe their voices more than adequately lead us deeply into a very important, hopefully on-going, radical political discussion.

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Mattie Udora Richardson is a writer and activist. Her work has appeared in a variety of anthologies, including Every Woman I’ve Ever Loved: Lesbian Writers on Their Mothers, Does Your Mama Know: Black Lesbian Coming Out Stories, Sisterfire Black Womanist Fiction and Poetry, and This Is What Lesbian Looks Like: Dyke Activists Take on the 21st Century. She is currently a PhD candidate at UC Berkeley in the African Diaspora Studies Program.

2006 update: Mattie U. Richardson, Ph.D. is now an Assistant Professor in the English Department at UT Austin.

Priya Kandaswamy is a PhD candidate in Ethnic Studies at the University of California, Berkeley. She is currently writing her dissertation, which examines the intersections of race and gender in the U.S. welfare state’s efforts to regulate sexuality, control labor, and police the boundaries of citizenship. Priya currently resides in Oakland, California, where she is exploring the radical possibilities of urban gardening.

2006 update: Priya Kandaswamy is working on finishing up her Ph.D. and is currently an assistant professor of Women’s Studies at Portland State University, which is where she may be contacted.

The following bio is modified from That’s Revolting! so as not to be redundant with more current information that follows.

Marlon M. Bailey, PhD was an ABD Dissertation Fellow in the Black Studies Department at University of California, Santa Barbara. Marlon’s dissertation work is entitled “Who’s Doing it Now: Conversations with Brian Freeman on the politics of Black Gay Performance,” in The Color of Theatre: Race, Ethnicity and Contemporary Performance. Marlon earned a BA in Theatre/Speech Education from Olivet College, an MFA in Theatre Performance from West Virginia University, and an MA in African American Studies from UC Berkeley.

2006 update: Marlon M. Bailey is currently a Chancellor’s Postdoctoral Fellow in Gender and Women’s Studies at the University of California-Berkeley. He earned a PhD in African Diaspora Studies with a designated emphasis in women, gender, and sexuality in the African American Studies Department at the University of California-Berkeley. In the Fall of 2007, Dr. Bailey will be an Assistant Professor of Gender Studies and African American and African Diaspora Studies at Indiana University-Bloomington.

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Is Gay Marriage Racist?

A Conversation with Marlon M. Bailey, Priya Kandaswamy, and Mattie Udora Richardson

This conversation was inspired by the question-and-answer section of a panel presentation of the same name, which took place at New College of California in the spring of 2004.

Question: I understand that historically marriage has been an oppressive institution, but can’t queer community change marriage and make it just? Can’t queer people—by virtue of our experience building our own family structures, support systems, and definitions of love and commitment—transform marriage?

Mattie U. Richardson: The United States has never been a just society as far as African Americans are concerned. The very first promise to freed slaves was that they would be allotted forty acres and a mule—a promise which has yet to be fulfilled. African Americans have repeatedly attempted to transform the institutions of the U.S. to meet our needs and to create a space for us as full citizens. We have tried to reform the state from the inside, becoming police officers and elected officials; we have relied on legislation to “correct” racism—to no avail.
Black families have been maligned by state and local officials as “pathological,” as they were described in the infamous Department of Labor report issued by Daniel Patrick Moynihan in 1965. Even though our families have always been defined as deviant, African Americans have often looked to heterosexual marriage to afford us respectability. Historically, neither the granting of marriage rights to Blacks during Reconstruction in the nineteenth century nor the relatively recent dismantling of interracial marriage laws in 1974 has legitimized or protected Black families from destructive state interventions like incarceration and the seizure of children by the state. In fact, marriage has been used against African American people, held as an impossible standard of two-parent nuclear household that pathologizes the extended families that are integral to both our African ancestral and African American cultural lives.
I think that, as a people, our continued search for American inclusion is a tragic one. The U.S. will never embrace Black people as we are, no matter what legislation is passed. Just because there are laws on the books does not stop the state from invalidating and destroying Black families by incarcerating our loved-ones by the millions, terrorizing our neighborhoods with local paramilitary police forces, and placing our sexuality under constant scrutiny by state welfare agencies. Until we as Black queer people speak our own truths, what passes for gay rights will do very little for us. Let’s not jump on the white lesbian and gay bandwagon without assessing our own political needs and goals.

Marlon M. Bailey: I do not want or need the U.S. State to ratify or legitimate my intimate relationships to merely prove that I am human. I am not heterosexual, nor do I want to be heterosexual; therefore, personally, I have no use for a heterosexual institution like marriage. Yet, I see this forum as a very important opportunity to begin to grapple with some of the complexities of same-sex marriage, especially when we begin to see it in the context of race, class, gender, and sexuality. Not everybody’s relationship to the state is the same; therefore, people’s different investments in same-sex marriage or lack thereof should be discussed.

Question: My lover is in the hospital and I can’t visit her because I don’t have spousal rights. Wouldn’t gay marriage help me to help my lover?

Mattie U. Richardson: First of all, I think that everyone should have the right to choose whomever they want to visit them in the hospital and to make decisions for them. Sadly, it’s often women’s spouses who get them in the hospital in the first place. I want to choose who visits me in the hospital, who makes my medical decisions, and who receives my Social Security benefits. Maybe I want my nephews to receive my benefits, not my partner. It should really be up to me.
This question about hospital visitation is always linked to the issue of gaining access to spousal health insurance. I think it’s ridiculous to have health care contingent upon employment status. In fact, I want all of my lovers to have health insurance! I’d like for society to truly honor families in their diversity and to actually have a commitment to the health and well-being of everyone—regardless of citizenship, marital and employment status.

Question: My lover and I had a brutal custody battle when we split up, and since she was the biological mother, the courts gave her full custodial rights and prevented me from seeing my child. Wouldn’t legalizing gay marriage allow me to see my daughter?

Priya Kandaswamy: Not necessarily. While many of its advocates argue that gay marriage would secure parental rights for gay and lesbian couples, I think this actually depends on a lot more than marital status. In the U.S., race is the strongest determinant of whether or not the state chooses to recognize your parental ties. Black families are the most likely of any racial group to be disrupted by Child Protection authorities, and 42 percent of all children in foster care in the U.S. are black. If being married doesn’t protect straight black families from having their children taken away, it’s unlikely that it will protect queer black families. It is incredibly important that we organize to have non-biological ties to children recognized and respected. While marriage might offer limited protections to some people, it will not change the racist and homophobic practices through which Child Protective Services determines who is fit or unfit to be a parent. Unless we change these practices, I don’t think that any of our parental relationships are really secure.

Marlon M. Bailey: We should not assume, in a racist, sexist, heterosexist, and homophobic society, that all people will have access to the so-called rights and privileges that marriage purports to offer. Black people, especially Black queers, have never been able to rely on the state to see us as equal citizens entitled to the rights and privileges granted to our white counterparts. For many Black people, marriage has never been the answer to these problems simply because Black people’s social institutions are not seen as institutions worth honoring. We are locked out of these so-called protections even when we adhere to the social strictures that are supposed to enable such protections.

Question: My lover was recently deported because he couldn’t get a green card. We are domestic partners, but the courts didn’t recognize the status. Wouldn’t marriage have kept us together?

Priya Kandaswamy: It is true that theoretically if you and your partner were able to have a legally recognized marriage, it may have allowed your partner to remain in the country. However, I think that there are a couple of important things to consider before taking this as a reason to endorse gay marriage. The first question that I would ask you is: Was your partner really deported because the two of you couldn’t get married? Or was s/he deported because of racist policies that readily exploit immigrant labor while at the same time forcing millions of immigrants to live in constant fear of deportation because the state refuses to grant them legal status in this country?
It is true that for some immigrants, marriage can be a path to obtaining legal status. However, not only is the process of gaining legal status through marriage contingent on the INS’s recognition of your marriage as one made in “good faith,” but this process also places a great deal of power over an immigrant in the hands of their citizen spouse. The requirement that immigrants prove to the INS that their marriages are legitimate and not just a means to legal status has meant that immigrants of color, who by virtue of the racist discourses surrounding immigration are more likely to be seen as “cheating the system,” often have a much harder time gaining legal status than white immigrants. In addition, many feminist activists within immigrant communities have drawn attention to the ways that an immigrant’s dependency on her citizen spouse for legal status in this country can produce or at least exacerbate exploitation and abuse within a relationship. As a result, in many cases, immigrant women are faced with the dilemma of having to choose between remaining in an abusive relationship or deportation. Given that domestic violence is not only a problem for the straight community, I think it is important that we take seriously the inequalities that gay marriage might produce in relationships between citizens and immigrants. It seems better to me to focus our political energies on fighting for broader changes in immigration policies that might enable immigrants in this country to live better lives regardless of their marital status.
It is really important that you bring up the particular concerns of queer immigrants as these concerns are often very marginalized within queer political organizing. I think that radical queer politics must address the multifaceted forms of oppression that queer immigrants face in this country. This means not simply thinking about queer immigrants in relation to their citizen partners, but developing a complex analysis of the ways that capitalist exploitation of immigrant labor, xenophobia, nationalism, racism, patriarchy, and homophobia affect the lives of queer immigrants. Most immigrants in this country come from places in the world that have been devastated by U.S. military operations or U.S.-sponsored economic policies. When they get to the U.S., many of these immigrants are forced to take poorly paid jobs with long hours, few benefits, little upward mobility, and few, if any, labor protections. To top it all off, they are denied most public services, and often their very presence in this country is criminalized. So, it seems to me that a radical queer politics needs to, at the very least, take a firm stance against U.S. military and economic colonialism abroad, support struggles of workers everywhere, and oppose racist state policies that criminalize immigrants. This seems much more in line with the long-term interests of queer immigrants as a group than struggles for gay marriage.

Question: Obviously gay marriage shouldn’t be the main priority for queer struggle—I know this is just a first step, but don’t we have to support gay marriage if we want to further struggles for full equality and civil rights for all queers?

Marlon M. Bailey: The crux of this movement is led by white, middle-class gays and lesbians who would largely benefit from same-sex marriage (Log Cabin Republicans, for instance). These people already have a considerable amount of upward mobility, so marriage is the icing on the cake. However, what these white queers are not concerned about, or at least it has not been expressed, is the vast majority of people of color who do not enjoy such social mobility and who are largely disenfranchised, and who need health care and don’t have it, etc. There has been no sustained critique of marriage from the white queer community, no mention of how it has been situated as a marker that Black people are compared to. While Blacks are seen as being outside of marriage and therefore deemed a dysfunctional people, meanwhile the state is consistently engaged in various schemes that undermine Black social institutions that support our kinship structures. And, let’s be honest, the white queer community, in large part, is extremely racist. Therefore, Black queers should be highly skeptical of any movement where we are being asked to jump on the bandwagon because at the end of the day, we are not the ones who stand to gain anything.

Mattie U. Richardson: The mainstream white lesbian and gay leadership is extremely arrogant to assume gay marriage as a “last barrier” to full citizenship when many of us will never see full equality or civil rights. Lesbian and gay mainstream marriage advocates have proclaimed that their inclusion will complete the U.S. march towards full equality for all of its citizens. This argument is a slap in the face to everyone who continues to experience institutionalized oppression in this country. The fact that they reflexively refer to African American civil rights struggles as their point of comparison for equality that has been “won” does two things. One, it falsely establishes that Black people and gay people are mutually exclusive population sets. Two, is a boldface disregard for Black history and an act of disrespect to Black people who continue to face the violence of racism every day.
Furthermore, not every queer desires to base their families on the model of the two-parent household with 2.5 kids. Every time white lesbian and gay leaders trot out some well-heeled homosexual couple who own their own house, have six figure salaries, and live the American dream, they do violence to the numerous forms of intimate arrangements and loving parenting that do not conform to mainstream ideas. For example, not so long ago my partner and I accepted the challenge of caring for my teenage nephew. During that time I had to interact with several state and local agencies that did not recognize us as a legitimate family even though I am a close blood relative. The first institution that challenged our legitimacy was the school my nephew attended, which did not see my partner as an equal guardian with me. The second was the state welfare office. Being a graduate student earning poverty wages, I applied for general assistance for such necessities as food. I was humiliated and denied aid because my sister did not relinquish her parental rights.
In reality, this is a lesbian and gay agenda, not a queer one. Our families are more “queer” than simply having two parents and children; we have kids enter our lives from our extended family, from our neighbors and friends. We have multiple intimate partnerships; we live in bodies that are not exclusively “male” or “female”. Many of our genders and the genders of our lovers are not recognized by the state at all. Upon closer inspection, marriage is not even a first step for addressing the needs of queer people.

Question: I agree with your points, but isn’t it true that at the very [base], marriage is about love and any way that two people can express that love for one another is progress?

Priya Kandaswamy: I would disagree with your assumption that love is actually at the foundation of the institution of marriage. Rather, I would argue that marriage is a legal institution that is fundamentally about preserving property relations. Not only does the marriage contract have its historical roots in the ownership and exchange of women, but it has been a key mechanism through which material wealth has been kept in particular families. In addition, the centrality of anti-miscegenation laws in U.S. history also demonstrates the ways that marriage has functioned to police racial borders and preserve white privilege.
Ultimately, whether people love each other and whether people get married are two very different questions. The state recognizes a very particular kind of love relationship to which we as queer people ought to aspire. For me, radical queer politics has always been about challenging the boundaries of what counts as “love.” One doesn’t have to be in a monogamous, long term, same sex relationship to love other people. One of the things that I think is most unfortunate about the gay marriage movement is that its implicit message seems to be that framing our relationships in ways that the state might recognize is more important than defining our practices of love on our own terms.

Section 2:

When I speak of marriage, I am only referring to something socially real, not a current fantasy, nor a future dream. I am discussing a real patriarchal sexist, heterosexist, and racist institution in these United States (and elsewhere), which has been a key site of and vehicle for the maintenance or strengthening of white supremacist power, male supremacist power, and heterosexual male power over heterosexual women in particular, oppressing them, while more deeply marginalizing non-heterosexual but sexually active people, as well as non-partnered and/or asexual people.

Gary Zukav, a white, heterosexually partnered male writer about dominant human culture and its relationship to his understandings of the human soul, has called, in the effort to help create a more humane humanity, for an end to legal and religious marriage as we know it, and for it to be replaced, however that can happen, with what he terms “spiritual partnership”. This concept, which is intended to be a non-institutionalized lived-reality, is also meant to foster and nurture a possibility, a hope, that love-in-union between two adults can be spiritually-emotionally-physically healing and beneficial to each partner’s growth as a person. He makes the assumption, a humanistic one, that spiritual growth means becoming more humane, closer to what some call God, and also “more just”. He is recommending this new form of relating to those who are or may one day be in long-term intimate adult personal partnerships. He is encouraging that demographic to embrace mutual spiritual growth over the patriarchal institutionalization of the oppression of women, among other problems with male supremacist State-sponsored, and male dominant Religion-controlled, one man-one woman unions. Zukav is not a homophobe, and accepts that such liberatory unions can exist between two women or two men as well.

While Gary’s critique is, from his point of view, from his place of privilege, compassionate and wise, I do not come to a radical critique of the institution of marriage from such a place, although Gary’s voice and perspective have been important in my own inquiry into the patriarchal institution of marriage. I have been and currently remain a complete outsider to this very large U.S. institution of social control and regulation of human action, including of human sexuality-as-racist sexism. I am a permanently single gay asexual (think “Jewish atheist”). Marriage holds no personal interest for me, nor do I imagine, given my own set of privileges, that I’d “need” it, as some people may, to gain social status, economic security, state citizenship, or respectability within my community. My largely “outsider” experience of this institution is that it is not only profoundly misogynist and heterosexist—which, imho, goes without saying, but that it is also deeply racist and classist. I would add irreparably so, because of all the foundational premises on which the institution is perched, having to do with the supposedly natural or God-given existence of a gender binary, which in patriarchy is a woman-hating political hierarchy. Women are still, in my limited experience among white middle class folks, “given away” by father figure to groom, and are expected to nurture their husbands in ways disproportionate to how husbands are expected to nurture their wives.

Within this specific-yet-dominant cultural experience, marginalized, oppressed groups’ affectional and relational practices are measured as legitimate or not. I do believe that one man and one woman who are intimately partnered, if well-practiced in the art of rooting out of themselves the interpersonal privileges and damage that gender and sexism does, can have a non-sexist, egalitarian, mutually loving relationship. However, I must add that I don’t know of any relationships like this within the institution of marriage. I know men and women who believe that’s what they have, but upon closer inspection, power-and-task-imbalanced gendered roles, hurtful communication dynamics, emotional and affection patterns of withholding and neglect, or mistreatment and abuse, expressions of sexuality-as-sexism do, in actuality, present themselves routinely in even the most “progressive” heterosexual marriages. This systematic inequality and harm happens in traditionally and historically oppressive ways to women.

Some Leftist men say that women want this institution more than men do. Certainly there are plenty of heterosexual men who would prefer not to marry, for many reasons, most of which revolve around men’s sense of “freedom”. I am not sure what this freedom-in-practice is, in reality, separate from heterosexual men’s learned, acted-out desires to be sexually sexist with several women instead of (allegedly) one. Marriage may serve some heterosexual women, who, in patriarchy, generally experience significantly limited options for economic and emotional security and support, and social acceptability, compared to men. Due to all of the above, I find these progressive to Leftist men’s arguments that heterosexual women want marriage more than men do to be self-serving, and a loop-hole excuse men use to maintain the institution and their sexist behaviors in and beyond it.

I know of no enfranchised, empowered, privileged straight men who are politically organized against this institution, especially for women’s sake. It remains that place where some commitment-phobic straight men are reluctant to go, but who, once inside, benefit significantly, materially-spiritually, often while hurting and degrading their female spouses by neglecting and/or abusing them, by using pornography, or by using other women as pornography, sometimes including their wives. This is not to say women don’t have agency in choosing to marry. It is to say that women’s agency does not emerge from and exist in the structurally empowered, socially statused gendered body that men are privileged to know and live as. It is to say that a belief that women’s life-long agency is equal to men’s, in patriarchy, perpetuates a socially compulsory denial about the actual condition of women’s agency in male-dominated and male supremacist societies.

This is not to say love cannot and does not live there; it is to say love is usually maimed there. It is also to say that when a more egalitarian love does live there, it does so despite the demands of the institution of marriage, not because of them. Some liberal to progressive people I know personally work to make their marriages “non-traditional”. Generally what they mean is “more egalitarian”, less bound to patriarchal expectations and imperatives. That phrasing reinforces my point. Usually at this point in any discussion with straight men about marriage, the man will tell me how untrue everything I’m saying is about his own, special marriage. But as Stan has noted elsewhere, exceptions don’t disprove the rule.

On other topic threads at this blog, there have been some discussions about marriage-as-a-patriarchal/sexist-institution, and it has been examined, in a preliminary way, for its value to some heterosexual male political radicals who, though supportive of many other radical lesbian-feminist agendas, do not seek, in method and practice, to eradicate this oppressive social structure. By “eradicate” I mean an intellectually reasoned, emotionally-spiritually grounded, politically principled rejection of, and an active dismantling of the institution of marriage, systematically, over time.

Some radical men do not call for its demise due to this being an implausible or impractical goal. I would note here that “the plausibility, practicality standard” does not stop radical white heterosexual men from calling for an end to the institutions and other structures that most harm or hamper them and some of their human interests—such as a call to end military war and a call to end capitalism. Sometimes, if rarely, white heterosexual men even call for an end to patriarchal structures—whether manifested in values, practices, industries, or systems—infused with male supremacist ideological imperatives. Sometimes, if rarely, white heterosexual men call for the elimination of those structures that would, if successfully eradicated, tremendously benefit women’s interests too (if those interests are for freedom from systemic, oppressive, misogynistic injury to body and soul). But, more typically, more commonly, white heterosexual radical men propose, support, or utilize a more liberal remedy of allowing more people access into those oppressive social structures.

Typically, for example, men of every sexual orientation self-servingly say that the pornography industry is benefited by having lesbian-produced pornography, ignoring that the pornography lesbian women produce is still the graphic depiction of objectified, fetishized females-as-sex things—perhaps produced for women’s enjoyment, but often used by heterosexual male viewers too, who then pride themselves on only getting off to that genre of allegedly “woman-empowering porn”. (A feminist question here is: does the defense, distribution, and consumption of this material harm or empower women-as-a-class, especially racially and economically non-privileged women?) This conceit also ignores that fact that it is white heterosexual men who are the controlling corporate pimps and consumers within the industry. This is not to say, in recent years, that women aren’t also pimps and profiteers in the industry. However, lesbian-pornography producers, if lesbian, are still fringe when compared to the better-known corporate conglomerates. Female, trans, and male producers of pornography, with few exceptions, maintain an apologetic to enthusiastically activist political stance to men’s most extremely misogynistic pornography. This lack of clear, vocal opposition and systematic political organizing against pornography, serves a special if relatively marginal role in undermining the feminist anti-pornography position, thereby aiding in the protection of the power of corporate pimps. (I do not pretend, in other words, that the power of lesbian pornography producers approximates that of straight male producers, structurally or economically, even while it is unquestionably dangerous and destructive to a feminism which seeks to free women from male supremacist societies and their sexualities.) Men being “pro-lesbian porn” can be paralleled, to some degree, with heterosexual men being pro-gay marriage.

My main point is that radical white men—heterosexual and gay—become liberal on matters that serve their (and my) socially constructed white and male interests. I have fallen into this trap, at times, and have been called on it, thankfully, but not usually or often by white or otherwise structurally privileged men. (Note: the responsibility and burden of calling out race-privileged men on their sexism and racism disproportionately falls to women, and too often, specifically to women of Color, who are already unfairly shouldered with the task of calling out men of their own ethnicities.) I believe principled pro-feminist, anti-racist, anti-heterosexist activist men have to call one another on this dangerous tendency among radical men to preserve what we want, at the expense of white heterosexual women’s, white queers, and queers of Color’s political interests in survival and a quality of life beyond survival.

Dominant cultural marriage, in the U.S., has a deeply racist history. African, and then African-American born male slaves, were not recognized or treated by whites and a newly forming White Supremacist State as human. Nor were women of any race. This country was founded on very partial principles: on values of democracy among and freedom for white heterosexual property-owning men. Resultantly, African and African-American girls and women, were, I would argue, the most vulnerable group of human beings to white men, along with Native American women. These women, like too many white wives, were considered and treated as chattel property or worse, and in this “land of the free” were systematically raped by white men. This legacy of racism and misogyny continues to be a serious impediment to women’s liberation in the U.S. After Black males in Amerikkka were recognized, very marginally, as human, there were serious social, lethal consequences for participating in “inter-racial” marriages, particularly between a Black person and a white person (one man, one woman). Miscegenation, as it was termed, was and still is seen by white supremacists to be ruinous to the white race.

Radical feminists of many ethnicities, particularly, have argued that marriage is oppressive to heterosexual women, also to lesbians. One level of the analysis is that marriage functions as a form of prostitution, with father as pimp, husband as john, and the marriage contract as the binding force that keeps women sexually available to men, while simultaneously economically dependent. Andrea Dworkin’s book: Right-Wing Women (1983), details this. Earlier in “second wave” feminism, in the mid-1970s radical political leaflets written by Nikki Craft took on marriage as an institution harmful to women. Earlier still, Shulamith Firestone wrote about this matter, in The Dialectics of Sex (1970). All three white activist-writers began, for me, a necessary interrogation into the “value” of (heterosexual) marriage and family which has been deepened and expanded by many other voices, especially those coming from communities of Color. I will add that I think it is important to understand prostitution as a very specific system of oppression of women and children, that while may, in some ways, be comparable to the institution of marriage, is not by any means identical to it. Prostitution, specifically, disproportionately impacts on poor and dispossessed women and children, who are more marginalized and “at risk” than many married middle class women. Girls and women are politically socialized to be prostitutes in specific ways. Girls and women are also politically socialized to be brides and wives, but those forms of preparation differ considerably. For prostitutes and some wives, there is significant force used to bring the oppressed to their user, abuser, or master. For other, more privileged wives, methods of compulsory socialization are utilized, including training females to be girls and women, and heterosexually interested in men-as-mates. Sometimes those male mates also turn out to be masters, beating and raping their wives at will.

The feminist argument, as I understand it, is not solely that marriage WAS oppressive to women, once upon a time, and that “thank God” now things are so much better. No. The argument, if I’m recalling it correctly, is that marriage, as a patriarchal institution, is controlled, monitored, and/or regulated by either the Patriarchal State or Patriarchal Religion (or both). The conclusion is that it is CURRENTLY oppressive to women of all sexualities and ethnicities, while affecting some women more harmfully than others, and while marginalizing some women more than others.

I find this analysis cogent, grounded, real, and meaningful. I also find it necessary, if we are to seriously and systematically deal with (i.e., remedy) how women are oppressed in patriarchy. Surely, two methods of placing women in the control of individual men and/or the Patriarchal State and its Religions, is to manufacture (socially construct, often by hand) heterosexuality and make it compulsory, and to privilege the marriage union between one woman and one man as both legal and holy.

Not only as a gay male, but as a “single” and asexual person who supports radical feminist projects to end all manifestations of white and male supremacy, there are at least a couple more matters related to the institution of marriage that need to be further addressed. One, its appalling and unrelenting heterosexism, which, especially on the Right, includes the mandate that women have heterosexually sexist sex and, daily, share intimate physical space with hurtful and dangerous men, and, two, its insistence on privileging one form of love or social adult-to-adult relating—specifically the kind that guarantees the political-not-biological necessity of statusing romantic heterosexuality, heterosexual unions, and heterosexual families—however dysfunctional they are!

Matters of misogyny, racism, heterosexism, and the privileging and institutionalizing of one form of adult-to-adult human relating above all others is not something I have seen the whitemale-dominated Left deal with, when taking up the matter of marriage. Rather, when it comes to this sometimes shaky-yet-still firmly embedded institution, what I have observed is that white heterosexual Leftists speak out “for” it with few, if any, substantive concerns, beyond the concerns of heterosexual men’s “freedom”. Additionally, and not irreconcilably, some Leftist white heterosexual men call for “pro-gay” liberal reforms to this heterosexist institution. These pronouncements, while not in line with the virulent and organized anti-gay bigotry found more often on the White Right, are, on their face and in their practice, still very self-serving. What makes them so is the degree to which heterosexual Leftist men are pro-marriage, for any two adults, without simultaneously owning, exposing, and challenging men’s deeply sexist, male supremacist “interests” in marriage as such.

I am publicly challenging all progressive to radical white heterosexual men to take up this issue as serious to the welfare of everyone who is not male, heterosexual, or white.

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For those interested in further reading on this subject, please go to these websites:

http://www.illegalvoices.org/knowledge/general_articles/is_gay_marriage_anti-black_.html

8 Comments

  1. Doyle Saylor:

    Julian writes;
    I am publicly challenging all progressive to radical white heterosexual men to take up this issue as serious to the welfare of everyone who is not male, heterosexual, or white.

    Doyle;
    Some of the above ideas have been kicking around for awhile. You seem to discover them with the PhD’s comments above.

    It’s well worth bringing up what marriage creates in a given society. However, I doubt anyone anywhere sees marriage as a ‘white’ institution as the thesis of this essay says. That suggests to me your political analysis is unanchored. One can take any given thesis and apply the theory to some situation and find some match ups. But the theory still fails to explain things. There are some examples of societies who don’t have ‘marriage’. The NA people (in China), but they are pressured by the Han majority to start having husbands and fathers.

    What that tells us is that strong institutions on a global scale need more than theory to be displaced. A plan of action based upon some critique of marriage has to give a serious alternative all kinds of strong reasons to be. PhD students ‘know’ enough to see the problems with marriage because the academia has plenty of documentation to develop that insight.

    Said another way, women know they are oppressed but for the most part don’t have viable alternatives. Or African Americans know they are oppressed but what are the alternatives? There was a long series of revolts in the U.S. against slavery before the civil war which was highly equivocal for African Americans got rid of the institution of chattel slavery. In part because the mass base has the natural tendency to want to survive without testing how vicious things could be in the face of repression.

    To change the marriage institutions is one of those monumentally large scale sea changes that really marks radical change. To be replaced by what?

    For me this discussion is of course central to thinking about ending Patriarchy. What would be the power sources to change? Why? I suggest a much deeper look at racism as well. What ever knocks them out of existence really constitutes a source of power that has not yet emerged into clarity for most folks. The masses have nothing to engage with and decide their fate based upon what the alternative offers.
    thanks,
    Doyle Saylor

  2. Dan:

    So maybe there’s a direction to move…? Toward a social recognition of agreements between people on a variety of issues. Why do people get married? I imagine there are a range of reasons, which live on many distinct planes of social awareness. But I think securing the family against interference by the state is a big one. I’m concerned about my wife, my kids, and continuity should anything happen to me, for one thing. But it doesn’t matter to me if you call that marriage or some other kind of civil contract, it matters that I get the best protection I can for my family. And I think everyone is entitled to it, regardless of gender, race, class, or gender-preference. If the point is that the insttution as currently practiced denies those protections to many people and it’s easier to replace the institution than fix it (which is what I gathered was the POV of the post), then lets go! Deconstructing the institution and dealing with each part of it separately sounds like a good idea.

    The post seems to me to have contained (and other things I’ve read have definitely contained) an implied POV on the “positive” nature of rights and protections. Seems to me a statement like the comment about preferring to leave Social Security benefits to nephews instead of partner implies a certain mindset with respect to what the state should provide and how. We may as well get specific about that at the same time. If it’s a social, political institution, then that’s what it’s all about (and it has to be social, because if it’s a religious institution, there’s nothing to say at all).

  3. Dan:

    Actually, I’d like to suggest (seriously this time) a thread on religion. Specifically, on how people think it can be dealt with in situations like marriage. I was dissatisfied with saying “if it’s a religious institution, there’s nothing to say at all” — what I really wanted to say, I realized right after I pressed the “submit” button, was “it can’t be ALLOWED to retreat into any culturally relativist place where people take refuge behind their faith to justify their bigotry.” Is that the solution? Ban religion from social discussions, on the grounds that it’s simply institutionalized oppression? Works for me, but then I’m not a believer…

  4. Doyle Saylor:

    Dan writes;
    Toward a social recognition of agreements between people on a variety of issues. Why do people get married?

    Doyle;
    The social contract is a ‘legal’ entity of administration in the natin state. One example of a problem with that ‘legality’ is the slow process of the legal system. To protect relationships in a broader sense it seems to me we would want to have speedier remedies than the law provides. Currently we call the cops when someone breaks the law. But say in the high schools where bullying is used to marginalize kids who are gay, do the cops really constitute a way to guarantee those kid’s rights?

    Secondly, the legal system is a nation state governmental administrative process. That calls up the question of the ‘nation state’ itself as capable of supporting some new relationship system. That also seems up for debate.

    In the sixties this sort of social question was generally referred to as ‘free love’. I think these days the debate is a bit more sophisticated, but let’s just take ‘free’. Free is really defined by certain sorts of social realities. Prior to the French Revolution, the almost universal feudal system was of ties to the community.

    Love is not taken seriously these days because it is so narrowly defined. The freedom to connect apparently leads to some anarchy threat to heterosexual unions. People worry about the resource of being loved and loving someone because so much of the way this system ‘protects’ such relationships is by the violence it does to those efforts to love ‘freely’. In other words if the violence was stopped against other options it would rip apart heterosexual relationships. I don’t think that is an honest assessment of what real change would yield.
    thanks,
    Doyle Saylor

  5. Dan:

    But what if we try to untangle the points of view? I agree that the “state” has an interest in marriage as a normative institution. But I don’t think it’s enough to say that marriage is part of the maechanism of control. Not everything a “nation state” does is by definition bad — unless you’re advocating the elimination of the “state” as a collective entity…

    Personal motives are a different thing, IMO. And while I think there are elements of blind acceptance of social indoctrination in some peoples’ decisions to marry, I don’t think we can dispose of it that easily.

    There’s love, there’s social norms, there’s religious inculcation, there’s a desire to protect children — lots of issues make up an individual’s relationship with the institution. On the social (or “state”) side, there’s a possible argument about the need to breed. I’m not endorsing this perspective, just pointing it out. Non-traditional relationships from this point of view might be perceived as a luxury which “advanced” societies (those far from a marginal, subsistence state) can indulge in, because they can afford to.

    One of the things that interested me the most about the original post was the observation that extended families are under attack. Does our culture endorse nuclear family atomization more, because it allows workers to be more mobile in the service of capital? Maybe. On the other hand, I choose to live half a continent away from my extended family so that I can pursue my own interests and raise my kids without their daily influence. This individualism is also a part of the culture, and probably also needs to be deconstructed.

  6. Doyle Saylor:

    Dan writes;
    Does our culture endorse nuclear family atomization more,

    Doyle;
    I think that is a key area to think about. How to make some simple ways to expose and do something with the process.

    Dan writes;
    But I don’t think it’s enough to say that marriage is part of the maechanism of control.

    Doyle;
    Well it is important to remember marriage is artificial. Both the role of husband and father can be done away with and some ’societies’ have practiced for thousands of years. The love part of marriage was more or less invented during the French revolution. It was an important tool to change women’s power relationship in families. That gradually eroded and did away with the property concept of women.

    At the same time nearly universally most people in our moment in time feel extremely cynical about ‘love’.

    Dan writes;
    there’s religious inculcation

    Doyle;
    I think religion (the rules of a belief in god) are usually theories of how to manage the growth of larger societies over pastoral or hunter gatherer societies. Mainly aimed at how people feel (emotion structure) in such a way that big groups of people don’t break apart in violent dissension. It is as if someone ’successfully’ theorized how all the atoms would work in a certain sort of society. Whereas before it looked impossible given how most people thought of social relationships.

    I would be tempted to dismiss the talk of heaven, angels, nirvana, as so such much fantasy. But often they serve some practical purpose for believers in regulating their communities. So their truth is indirect about how connections are made and maintained.

    The force in society that tears up families is how the media grabs more and more attention from family members and offers vistas of possibilities that most families don’t know how to contain. Some liberals might say well tolerance is what is needed, but what people seek is not just other people not passing judgments but that they themselves get what they need from society. So for example tolerating gays in the military in don’t ask don’t tell implies as long as a gay person is invisible then ok. But the gay person feels that oppression very strongly.

    Effectively in my view, referring to the media again, what matters here is not the extended family but how the tools of consciousness like the media allow very large scale connections to form. These large scale connections constantly break down the more restricted small scale societies that people try to create.
    thanks,
    Doyle

  7. Robin Hering:

    Julian, reading this and reflecting on your comment on Blueprint for after the revolution, “This again speaks to the whitemaleegocentrism of thought: it is only when white men figure out that something is good for them, that it registers as a social-ecological-spiritual justice issue. What if what “best serves” the Earth and its many diverse cultures, non-human animal as well as human animal, is for all white men to move out of leadership positions, and to work towards Indigenous peoples to define worldviews and policies and practices that may or may not be in white men’s best interests?” I thought I’d bring the insight of Fukuoka, writing in The One Straw Revolution, 1978, to the table. He weaves concepts of marriage (a little bit gendered) with what he calls natural gardening.

    “…among natural farming methods two kinds could be distinguished: broad, transcendent natural farming, and the narrow natural farming of the relative world. If I were pressed to talk about it in Buddhist terms, the two could be called respectively as Mahayana and Hinayana natural farming.

    “Broad, Mahayana natural farming arises of itself when a unity exists between a man and nature. It conforms to nature as it is, and to the mind as it is. It proceeds from the conviction that if the individual temporarily abandons human will and so allows himself to be guided by nature, nature responds by providing everything. To give a simple analogy, in transcendent natural farming the relationship between humanity and nature can be compared with a husband and wife joined in perfect marriage. The marriage is not bestowed, not received; the perfect pair comes into existence of itself.

    “Narrow natural farming, on the other hand, is pursuing the way of nature; it self-consciously attempts, by ‘organic’ or other methods, to follow nature. Farming is used for achieving a given objective. Although sincerely loving nature and earnestly proposing to her, the relationship is still tentative. Modern industrial farming desires heaven’s wisdom, without grasping its meaning, and at the same time wants to make use of [re: Stan’s comment about a man wanting access to a woman’s body so he can have a child] nature. Restlessly searching, it is unable to find anyone to propose to.

    “The narrow view of natural farming says that it is good for the farmer to apply organic material to the soil and good to raise animals, and that this is the best and most efficient way to put nature to use. To speak in terms of personal practice, this is fine, but with this way alone, the spirit of true natural farming cannot be kept alive. This kind of narrow farming is analogous to the school, which seeks victory through the skillful, yet self-conscious application of technique. Modern industrial farming follows the two-stroke school, which believes that victory can be won by delivering the greatest barrage of swordstrokes.

    “Pure natural farming, by contrast, is the no-stroke school. It goes nowhere and seeks no victory. Putting “do-nothing” into practice is the one thing the farmer should strive to accomplish. Lao Tzu spoke of non-active nature, and I think that if he were a farmer he would certainly practice natural farming… When it is understood that one loses joy and happiness in the attempt to possess them, the essence of natural farming will be realized. [really important here, I think:] The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops, but the cultivation and perfection of human beings.”

    With the exception of attempts by some to re-establish (food) forests, to emulate the food forests of certain indigenous people right outside their dwellings before missionaries and colonists cut them down and planted crops, permaculture, and that Permatopia model, do have dominating and controlling aspects, and likely wouldn’t be successful in the long term if thinking along the lines of Feral Scholar doesn’t either weave into it or get out ahead of things.

  8. Julian Real:

    Hi Robin.

    Thanks for that comment.

    It speaks to so much, so eloquently.

    There are, in my experiences in white male cultures, so many unexamined, unchallenged and, politically-spiritually speaking, therefore dangerous things about how white men see and are in the world. None of them, as far I can tell, are “natural” or innate to being pale and having so-called “male” genitalia.

    All, as far as I can tell, are the product of systems of thought/being/doing, acting upon (literally) the world as if white males weren’t “of” the world, as if they/we were “in charge” of it.

    White men, in the West, and through whitemale-owned corporations and whitemale-organized institutions, control all major systems of thought/being/doing, at the expense of everyone else and everything else, in this view.

    Feminists, especially radical women of Color, point to other ways of thinking/being/doing, and these approaches get “debated” by white men (rarely), for their “value”. The core problem “that white men are in charge of deciding what is of value to be discussed, debated, listened to and heard, let alone understood and responded to compassionately, empathically, and with sustained, systematic action, which includes thinking/being/feeling but doesn’t stop there… this core problem is not usually addressed by white men as a central problem.

    Privileged white men, and now, thanks to the efforts of a Western feminist movement which privileges some white female speech too… privileges and produces academic speech created out of a whitemale/European-constructed Academy specifically. This means something in the real world.

    It means that mostly white men, some white women, and a few men of Color, and perhaps a token woman of Color, are, for real, “allowed to speak”. This means that only these people (if lucky) can or will “be heard”, “be listened to”, be taken seriously for the views and experiences they hold”. This is so dangerous in a world where white men are destroying the Earth.

    For white men to let white men stay in charge of institutions and industries of harm, without them/us radically understanding, and caring about, the harm they/we are doing, is—pick a term: criminal, unethical, dangerous, deadly, misogynist, racist, destructive, and, if the dominant white men remain heterosexual, also heterosexist.

    Above I came upon a book, and in that book was an outstanding essay, that had “other” voices. Raised in that same academy, they have managed to stay aware, to know what it is about whitemen’s ways of being/doing that are harmful, especially to women of all Colors, and to men of Color, and to Queer women and men in particular.

    I had hoped their voices would be prominently presented here, but the cover page title of this piece, to date (8/7/2006) only mentions a white guy: me. I did not post this so “I” could be heard (alone). I posted this piece so three radical Queer people of Color could be HEARD, listened to, in order to have an impact, in order to change “how things are done” around here, in the world of racism, sexism, and heterosexism, among other atrocities CRAP produces and reproduces.

    Their voices have not been responded to, as yet, by so many regulars here, and I have to wonder why.

    Is it because (sometimes racist, sometimes not) men vs. men wars are “more important” to pay attention to, than what happens to women of Color and white women systematically, every day, in global racist patriarchy’s war against women? Except for Yolanda’s eloquent speech and powerful presence, what other radical voice of Color, that are Queer, are here?

    Is it because women and men of Color just don’t speak the right language? I felt including three PhDs would amply catch the “respect” of typical white college-educated men, who seem to need such letters after names of non-dominant writers, to be taken seriously. Regardless of their PhDs, of course, their voices remain very important and must be taken seriously in any discussion about human rights work.

    I remain perplexed as to the small amount of careful, thoughtful responses.

    I hope those three voices: Priya’s, Mattie’s, and Marlon’s, brought into Stan’s blogspace, WILL be listened to, heard, cared about, responded to the way “educated” white men respond to one another here, or, rather, in a far more integrated intellectual/emotional/spiritual/political way that white men tend to express themselves/ourselves.

    It will be a new day for the world, a new opening of possibility, when that happens on the global scale. And if it doesn’t happen, or, maybe, even if it does, or there will have to be an illness that takes out all white men, myself included, for this world to have an opportunity to know peace, in the samsaric realm, anyway!

    Julian

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