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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/04/18/dines-on-imus/#comment-69875</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 18:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[lbo-talk] Misogyny finally starting to have consequences
John Costello  
Thu May 3 21:57:02 PDT 2007 



Backstory: AutoAdmit is a law student blog and forum site. They have a
history of allowing, without moderation, racist and sexist posts and
threats of violence and rape against specific female bloggers and law
students. They hosted a &quot;hottest female law students&quot; contest, in
which women were entered without their consent and where men vomited
all sorts of misogyny at the &quot;nominees&quot; if they dared to ask their
pictures to be removed. Some of the women complained; the Washington
Post took notice; the executives who run the board defended &quot;freedom
of speech&quot; and &quot;right to free expression&quot;; and finally one of them,
Anthony Ciolli, resigned. Nonetheless, the law firm who had offered
him a job rescinded their offer.

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2007/05/03/law-firm-rescinds-offer-to-ex-autoadmit-director/

&gt;  [Managing partner] DeWitt wrote that the content of the messages on the board are
&gt; &quot;antithetical&quot; to the values of the firm and the &quot;principles of collegiality and respect
&gt;  that members of the legal profession should observe in their dealings with other
&gt; lawyers.&quot; DeWitt pointed out that in an online letter to another blogger, Ciolli and his
&gt; partner Jarret Cohen identified themselves as AutoAdmit&#039;s administrators and
&gt; defended its &quot;free, uninhibited exchange of ideas.&quot;
&gt;
&gt;  DeWitt continued: &quot;We expect any lawyer affiliated with our firm, when presented
&gt; with the kind of language exhibited on the message board, to reject it and to disavow
&gt; any affiliation with it. You, instead, facilitated the expression and publication of such
&gt; language. . . . &quot; He wrote, his resignation from the site was &quot;too late to ameliorate
&gt; our concerns.&quot;


This is excellent, and I hope we see more of it. Misogyny, racism,
homophobia, etc. are able to cling to life in part because there are
no consequences for people who participate in, abet, or enable them.
I&#039;m glad to see that firms are starting to decide they would rather
have nothing to do with such people.

-- 
&quot;It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling
exception, is composed of others.&quot; -- John Andrew Holmes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[lbo-talk] Misogyny finally starting to have consequences<br />
John Costello<br />
Thu May 3 21:57:02 PDT 2007 </p>
<p>Backstory: AutoAdmit is a law student blog and forum site. They have a<br />
history of allowing, without moderation, racist and sexist posts and<br />
threats of violence and rape against specific female bloggers and law<br />
students. They hosted a &#8220;hottest female law students&#8221; contest, in<br />
which women were entered without their consent and where men vomited<br />
all sorts of misogyny at the &#8220;nominees&#8221; if they dared to ask their<br />
pictures to be removed. Some of the women complained; the Washington<br />
Post took notice; the executives who run the board defended &#8220;freedom<br />
of speech&#8221; and &#8220;right to free expression&#8221;; and finally one of them,<br />
Anthony Ciolli, resigned. Nonetheless, the law firm who had offered<br />
him a job rescinded their offer.</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2007/05/03/law-firm-rescinds-offer-to-ex-autoadmit-director/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2007/05/03/law-firm-rescinds-offer-to-ex-autoadmit-director/</a></p>
<p>&gt;  [Managing partner] DeWitt wrote that the content of the messages on the board are<br />
&gt; &#8220;antithetical&#8221; to the values of the firm and the &#8220;principles of collegiality and respect<br />
&gt;  that members of the legal profession should observe in their dealings with other<br />
&gt; lawyers.&#8221; DeWitt pointed out that in an online letter to another blogger, Ciolli and his<br />
&gt; partner Jarret Cohen identified themselves as AutoAdmit&#8217;s administrators and<br />
&gt; defended its &#8220;free, uninhibited exchange of ideas.&#8221;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;  DeWitt continued: &#8220;We expect any lawyer affiliated with our firm, when presented<br />
&gt; with the kind of language exhibited on the message board, to reject it and to disavow<br />
&gt; any affiliation with it. You, instead, facilitated the expression and publication of such<br />
&gt; language. . . . &#8221; He wrote, his resignation from the site was &#8220;too late to ameliorate<br />
&gt; our concerns.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is excellent, and I hope we see more of it. Misogyny, racism,<br />
homophobia, etc. are able to cling to life in part because there are<br />
no consequences for people who participate in, abet, or enable them.<br />
I&#8217;m glad to see that firms are starting to decide they would rather<br />
have nothing to do with such people.</p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
&#8220;It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling<br />
exception, is composed of others.&#8221; &#8212; John Andrew Holmes</p>
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		<title>By: thecutter</title>
		<link>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/04/18/dines-on-imus/#comment-67866</link>
		<dc:creator>thecutter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 21:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://peacepalestine.blogspot.com/2007/04/thinking-blogger-awards.html

I&#039;ve tagged you as a thinking blogger.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve tagged you as a thinking blogger.</p>
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		<title>By: DeAnander</title>
		<link>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/04/18/dines-on-imus/#comment-67851</link>
		<dc:creator>DeAnander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been mulling over the whole Imus thing and thinking that what I&#039;d really like to have is naming rights over the network that hires/hired him.  I am not sure I would care so much if he stays on the air spouting his poisonous drivel, if only the name of the network reflected reality -- TIA! -- it should now be called the Aryan Brotherhood Broadcasting Network or some such.  just imagine the possibilities:  the Woman-Hating Dickhead Nightly News Hour, the We Own Your Brain Channel, the White Supremacist Report, the Fearmonger Factor... if only I could get my mitts on the title generator and program guide camera-ready copy :-)

[this is kind of a joke post btw, I am actually glad that this hatemonger is off the air.  but what to do about the rest of &#039;em -- including the ones who use more bourgeois livingroom language, like Friedman?  and what about that obscene performance from McCain, chortling like a fratboy savouring a prank as he promotes the incineration of large numbers of human beings and ruination of yet another sovereign nation?]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been mulling over the whole Imus thing and thinking that what I&#8217;d really like to have is naming rights over the network that hires/hired him.  I am not sure I would care so much if he stays on the air spouting his poisonous drivel, if only the name of the network reflected reality &#8212; TIA! &#8212; it should now be called the Aryan Brotherhood Broadcasting Network or some such.  just imagine the possibilities:  the Woman-Hating Dickhead Nightly News Hour, the We Own Your Brain Channel, the White Supremacist Report, the Fearmonger Factor&#8230; if only I could get my mitts on the title generator and program guide camera-ready copy <img src='http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>[this is kind of a joke post btw, I am actually glad that this hatemonger is off the air.  but what to do about the rest of 'em -- including the ones who use more bourgeois livingroom language, like Friedman?  and what about that obscene performance from McCain, chortling like a fratboy savouring a prank as he promotes the incineration of large numbers of human beings and ruination of yet another sovereign nation?]</p>
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		<title>By: Legume Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/04/18/dines-on-imus/#comment-67845</link>
		<dc:creator>Legume Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s time we start demanding the return of &quot;equal time&quot; provisions (as once existed before the 1980s) and their use against the &quot;editorializing&quot; of racists and sexists.  For every racist and sexist comment heard, seen, or published on the mainstream media, the oligopoly responsible for this airing must be made to grant equal time for anti-racist and anti-sexist commentators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s time we start demanding the return of &#8220;equal time&#8221; provisions (as once existed before the 1980s) and their use against the &#8220;editorializing&#8221; of racists and sexists.  For every racist and sexist comment heard, seen, or published on the mainstream media, the oligopoly responsible for this airing must be made to grant equal time for anti-racist and anti-sexist commentators.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/04/18/dines-on-imus/#comment-67634</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The equivocation of Imus and hip-hop artists was the major thrust of African-American sportswriter Jason Whitlock&#039;s editorial &quot;Imus isnâ€™t the real bad guy&quot;.  

http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/66339.html

Whitlock got a lot of television coverage recently being brought on shows as a foil for Al Sharpton.  He&#039;s certainly got a lot of support from the right. 

Whitlock manages to blend both the abstract equality of liberalism (well black comedians do it, why can&#039;t Imus?) with the two minutes of hate that a large part of the nation indulges in whenever Sharpton or Jackson are mentioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The equivocation of Imus and hip-hop artists was the major thrust of African-American sportswriter Jason Whitlock&#8217;s editorial &#8220;Imus isnâ€™t the real bad guy&#8221;.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/66339.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/66339.html</a></p>
<p>Whitlock got a lot of television coverage recently being brought on shows as a foil for Al Sharpton.  He&#8217;s certainly got a lot of support from the right. </p>
<p>Whitlock manages to blend both the abstract equality of liberalism (well black comedians do it, why can&#8217;t Imus?) with the two minutes of hate that a large part of the nation indulges in whenever Sharpton or Jackson are mentioned.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/04/18/dines-on-imus/#comment-67528</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A: Um, because liberal abstraction is really just postmodernism in a neoliberal disguise? 

Because there are some types of speech worth restricting?

I have trouble connecting with the Imus case (I&#039;m young, white, male, and hate basketball). 

This, on the other hand, caught my eye: 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6570253.stm

Thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A: Um, because liberal abstraction is really just postmodernism in a neoliberal disguise? </p>
<p>Because there are some types of speech worth restricting?</p>
<p>I have trouble connecting with the Imus case (I&#8217;m young, white, male, and hate basketball). </p>
<p>This, on the other hand, caught my eye: </p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6570253.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6570253.stm</a></p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Ciarrocca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Ciarrocca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I commend Gail Dines on her excellent article about sexism and racism. America a society that has been ethically, morally philosophically, intellectually, emotionally shutdown for its entire history!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I commend Gail Dines on her excellent article about sexism and racism. America a society that has been ethically, morally philosophically, intellectually, emotionally shutdown for its entire history!</p>
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