Comments on: Something to be Enthusiastic About: thinking about Demand Reduction http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/07/07/something-to-be-enthusiastic-about-thinking-about-demand-reduction/ Making the Connections Wed, 08 Feb 2012 20:52:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Lisa http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/07/07/something-to-be-enthusiastic-about-thinking-about-demand-reduction/#comment-283380 Lisa Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:30:20 +0000 http://feralscholar.org/blog/?p=518#comment-283380 On theoretical, scientific or ideological grounds … By John Busby Nov/10/2008 Christof Rühl is chief economist of oil major BP and has given an interview to Euractiv an independent multi-lingual website published in Brussels and circulated widely in the EC Commission and Directorates. His main purpose was to de-bunk the peak oil philosophy (if that is what it is!) for which he has "no reason to accept either on theoretical, scientific or ideological grounds". However, he ran into a bit of trouble... He went to Brussels to present BP's Statistical Review of World Energy 2008, but failed to take cognisance of its figures... Taking into account the lack of substantial new discoveries, which are in their aggregate but a fraction of annual consumption, it is quite likely that the long-awaited peak in oil production has passed! Full article: http://www.sandersresearch.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1378http://www.sandersresearch.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1378 On theoretical, scientific or ideological grounds …
By John Busby
Nov/10/2008

Christof Rühl is chief economist of oil major BP and has given an interview to Euractiv an independent multi-lingual website published in Brussels and circulated widely in the EC Commission and Directorates. His main purpose was to de-bunk the peak oil philosophy (if that is what it is!) for which he has “no reason to accept either on theoretical, scientific or ideological grounds”.

However, he ran into a bit of trouble…

He went to Brussels to present BP’s Statistical Review of World Energy 2008, but failed to take cognisance of its figures…

Taking into account the lack of substantial new discoveries, which are in their aggregate but a fraction of annual consumption, it is quite likely that the long-awaited peak in oil production has passed!

Full article:

http://www.sandersresearch.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1378http://www.sandersresearch.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1378

]]> By: peggy http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/07/07/something-to-be-enthusiastic-about-thinking-about-demand-reduction/#comment-210948 peggy Wed, 02 Jul 2008 07:28:13 +0000 http://feralscholar.org/blog/?p=518#comment-210948 Summary: Alaskan politicians have used every oil-price rise since 1973 to push for drilling beneath the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. But even putting environmental questions aside, refuge oil is unnecessary, insecure, economically risky, and a distraction from the real energy debate. Market solutions that enhance efficiency can provide secure, safe, and clean energy services at much lower cost. Full article at http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20010701faessay4995/amory-b-lovins-l-hunter-lovins/fool-s-gold-in-alaska.html Summary: Alaskan politicians have used every oil-price rise since 1973 to push for drilling beneath the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. But even putting environmental questions aside, refuge oil is unnecessary, insecure, economically risky, and a distraction from the real energy debate. Market solutions that enhance efficiency can provide secure, safe, and clean energy services at much lower cost.

Full article at http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20010701faessay4995/amory-b-lovins-l-hunter-lovins/fool-s-gold-in-alaska.html

]]> By: Josiah http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/07/07/something-to-be-enthusiastic-about-thinking-about-demand-reduction/#comment-80139 Josiah Mon, 09 Jul 2007 03:01:48 +0000 http://feralscholar.org/blog/?p=518#comment-80139 One thing that struck me while reading your post was the tremendous number of skills that become necessary and valuable when people are a) rationing a fixed amount of resources, and b) self-provisioning to whatever extent possible. It is much easier to believe in the Energy Fairy when the extreme division of labor has totally separated sites of consumption from sites of production, leading to people who don't know where their basic daily staples come from, how they work, and what they are made of. You're ahead of most people (including me) in that you seem to have a good working knowledge of engineering and design. But I think demand reduction will come involuntarily, through the disruption of access to resources. STAN RESPONDS: Very astute observation. This relates to exactly what we are saying over at <a href="http://insurgentamerican.net" rel="nofollow">IA</a>. The acquisition of these skills, <i>before they become necessary</i>, will pre-position new, practical (and hopefully many women) leaders, whose soon-to-be essential knowledges will lead people to pay attention to what they are saying politically as well. Food politics is inescapably revolutionary. The days of ideological vanguards are fading further and further into the past. But someone is always on the front lines first. That much hasn't changed, and won't. One thing that struck me while reading your post was the tremendous number of skills that become necessary and valuable when people are a) rationing a fixed amount of resources, and b) self-provisioning to whatever extent possible. It is much easier to believe in the Energy Fairy when the extreme division of labor has totally separated sites of consumption from sites of production, leading to people who don’t know where their basic daily staples come from, how they work, and what they are made of. You’re ahead of most people (including me) in that you seem to have a good working knowledge of engineering and design. But I think demand reduction will come involuntarily, through the disruption of access to resources.

STAN RESPONDS: Very astute observation. This relates to exactly what we are saying over at IA. The acquisition of these skills, before they become necessary, will pre-position new, practical (and hopefully many women) leaders, whose soon-to-be essential knowledges will lead people to pay attention to what they are saying politically as well. Food politics is inescapably revolutionary. The days of ideological vanguards are fading further and further into the past. But someone is always on the front lines first. That much hasn’t changed, and won’t.

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