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	<title>Comments on: The Obscenity</title>
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		<title>By: ADayInTheLife</title>
		<link>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/07/07/the-obscenity/#comment-342398</link>
		<dc:creator>ADayInTheLife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with you, Stan. I'm 14, and I've grown up on a farm that my mother built from the ground up, by herself, to be Self-Sustaining, and it is. My family lives and works there, and it's very hard to keep it going. The government has so many ridiculous statutes and regulations in place that we can't sell our produce legally, and so we have almost no income. These last few years have been hard. in a way, it's my moms way of protesting the dismal state of the country we live in. Neither She nor my father vote anymore. One of my cousins is MIA in Iraq, and another is in jail for protesting the war. I'm really not sure I want to grow up and live in the place the world seems to be turning into.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with you, Stan. I&#8217;m 14, and I&#8217;ve grown up on a farm that my mother built from the ground up, by herself, to be Self-Sustaining, and it is. My family lives and works there, and it&#8217;s very hard to keep it going. The government has so many ridiculous statutes and regulations in place that we can&#8217;t sell our produce legally, and so we have almost no income. These last few years have been hard. in a way, it&#8217;s my moms way of protesting the dismal state of the country we live in. Neither She nor my father vote anymore. One of my cousins is MIA in Iraq, and another is in jail for protesting the war. I&#8217;m really not sure I want to grow up and live in the place the world seems to be turning into.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Thacker</title>
		<link>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/07/07/the-obscenity/#comment-188718</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Thacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 04:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/07/07/the-obscenity/#comment-188718</guid>
		<description>The truth is true.  I'm trying to maintain some spiritual equanimity, but wonder if I have the right to it knowing of the existing carnage.  I'm an opaque version of a lesser man than yourself, but find that I've been through similar changes in understanding.  Had the military experience in a real half-hearted way, used to believe Ayn Rand, loved getting the English degree, am trying to make a relationship work with a woman of color, and still want to believe in the ideal of what America might have been.  The National Security Archives piece on Atomic Veterans pops up first with entering Paul Wellstone and proves that in '59 the gov't dropped aerosylized cadmium sulfide on American schoolchildren.  Enough said about who is the enemy of humanity.  Every now and then I try to speak to my peers in Raleigh by calling the Bill Amay radio show.  Three calls and his every response to factual info. is to bring up Bill Clinton.  I would like to politely challenge him to have you on his show if you would do it.  I heard you kick ass at the peace rally in Fayetteville and was somewhat disappointed when Amy Goodman excluded your remarks on Democracy Now.  I'm pleased to have you on the planet with us.  If you ever need something with which I can help leave a message for Buddy @ 387-4740.  Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth is true.  I&#8217;m trying to maintain some spiritual equanimity, but wonder if I have the right to it knowing of the existing carnage.  I&#8217;m an opaque version of a lesser man than yourself, but find that I&#8217;ve been through similar changes in understanding.  Had the military experience in a real half-hearted way, used to believe Ayn Rand, loved getting the English degree, am trying to make a relationship work with a woman of color, and still want to believe in the ideal of what America might have been.  The National Security Archives piece on Atomic Veterans pops up first with entering Paul Wellstone and proves that in &#8216;59 the gov&#8217;t dropped aerosylized cadmium sulfide on American schoolchildren.  Enough said about who is the enemy of humanity.  Every now and then I try to speak to my peers in Raleigh by calling the Bill Amay radio show.  Three calls and his every response to factual info. is to bring up Bill Clinton.  I would like to politely challenge him to have you on his show if you would do it.  I heard you kick ass at the peace rally in Fayetteville and was somewhat disappointed when Amy Goodman excluded your remarks on Democracy Now.  I&#8217;m pleased to have you on the planet with us.  If you ever need something with which I can help leave a message for Buddy @ 387-4740.  Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Sisyphus39</title>
		<link>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/07/07/the-obscenity/#comment-94231</link>
		<dc:creator>Sisyphus39</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/07/07/the-obscenity/#comment-94231</guid>
		<description>You express this ugly truth in a beautiful way.
Thank you.
There IS a candidate ready to bring home the troops and relieve Iraq of the horrible burden of occupation. This candidate is left out of mainstream media, mocked by the "front-runners," and belittled by pundits as a candidate who "can't win." He is the only candidate I would consider supporting. He is Dennis Kucinich. He is the only candidate who supports the people, the only candidate with consistent statements, the only candidate refusing funding by global corporations (who support "forever war" because it is profitable), the only candidate with constant mindfulness of ALL the people.
The reason I mention this is not for "politics" but for your statement (and other commenters) that you will not vote. Please DO vote -- but not for the "lesser of two evils." Not voting is exactly what warmongers prefer. 
I reiterate -- your article is the best I've read against this war. It is the human and humane factor that is important!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You express this ugly truth in a beautiful way.<br />
Thank you.<br />
There IS a candidate ready to bring home the troops and relieve Iraq of the horrible burden of occupation. This candidate is left out of mainstream media, mocked by the &#8220;front-runners,&#8221; and belittled by pundits as a candidate who &#8220;can&#8217;t win.&#8221; He is the only candidate I would consider supporting. He is Dennis Kucinich. He is the only candidate who supports the people, the only candidate with consistent statements, the only candidate refusing funding by global corporations (who support &#8220;forever war&#8221; because it is profitable), the only candidate with constant mindfulness of ALL the people.<br />
The reason I mention this is not for &#8220;politics&#8221; but for your statement (and other commenters) that you will not vote. Please DO vote &#8212; but not for the &#8220;lesser of two evils.&#8221; Not voting is exactly what warmongers prefer.<br />
I reiterate &#8212; your article is the best I&#8217;ve read against this war. It is the human and humane factor that is important!</p>
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		<title>By: Judy</title>
		<link>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/07/07/the-obscenity/#comment-85157</link>
		<dc:creator>Judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 01:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/07/07/the-obscenity/#comment-85157</guid>
		<description>Dear Stan, I also am a 56 year old person who has awakened to the ugly new world order. I feel sad, angry and hopeless. My three little grandaughters are going to feel the pain of these evil men who have changed our world so drastically.I also will not be voting again as there is little chance that it will make any difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Stan, I also am a 56 year old person who has awakened to the ugly new world order. I feel sad, angry and hopeless. My three little grandaughters are going to feel the pain of these evil men who have changed our world so drastically.I also will not be voting again as there is little chance that it will make any difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark E. Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/07/07/the-obscenity/#comment-81117</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark E. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 05:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/07/07/the-obscenity/#comment-81117</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote cite="It was Alice Walker who said, in her reflection on the life of Zora Neale Hurston, â€œWhen I have considered the enormity of the white manâ€™s crimes â€¦ I think in perfect harmonyâ€”with my sister of long ago: Let the earth marinate in poisons. Let the bombs cover the ground like rain. For nothing short of total destruction will ever teach them anything.â€ The same can now be said of the government of the United States; and that includes the dung-heap of ambition that is the Democratic Party."&gt;

I believe that Dr. Lise Meitner, who discovered nuclear fission, came to that exact same conclusion.

For those who still believe that it was the denazified Otto Hahn who made the discovery, Hahn himself admitted that he had never studied mathematics or physics, while Meitner had doctorates in both.

For those who still believe that Meitner only discovered "the mathematical basis for fission," but Hahn actually discovered fission, all the experiments Hahn did, were designed, carried out under the supervision of, and interpreted by Meitner, as Hahn lacked the capability to do so himself. The experiment he carried out had been done by many others, it was Meitner's interpretation, the mathematical formula, which was the discovery, not a much repeated but otherwise inexplicable experiment.

Einstein balked at giving this equation to the U.S., as he knew the U.S. to be a fascist country, but Einstein, much of whose genius was attributable to the ideas he stole from his first wife and other females, was in the habit of listening to females. 

And as far as I can tell, Meitner, who was of Jewish descent and thus barely escaped the forced prostitution of Ravensbruck concentration camp, or being made into a lampshade or a bar of soap after being worked to death, was much too smart to have come to any other conclusion than that reached by Alice Walker and Zora Neale Hurston.

I'm 67, and I know of only two contemporary males who "get it," Juan Santos, and you, Stan. It almosts reminds me of that Bible story about saving the city for 10 good men, okay 9, well 8, uh...7, maybe 6, sure 5 would do, would you settle for 4, 3, 2, 1....BOMBS AWAY!&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="It was Alice Walker who said, in her reflection on the life of Zora Neale Hurston, â€œWhen I have considered the enormity of the white manâ€™s crimes â€¦ I think in perfect harmonyâ€”with my sister of long ago: Let the earth marinate in poisons. Let the bombs cover the ground like rain. For nothing short of total destruction will ever teach them anything.â€ The same can now be said of the government of the United States; and that includes the dung-heap of ambition that is the Democratic Party.">
<p>I believe that Dr. Lise Meitner, who discovered nuclear fission, came to that exact same conclusion.</p>
<p>For those who still believe that it was the denazified Otto Hahn who made the discovery, Hahn himself admitted that he had never studied mathematics or physics, while Meitner had doctorates in both.</p>
<p>For those who still believe that Meitner only discovered &#8220;the mathematical basis for fission,&#8221; but Hahn actually discovered fission, all the experiments Hahn did, were designed, carried out under the supervision of, and interpreted by Meitner, as Hahn lacked the capability to do so himself. The experiment he carried out had been done by many others, it was Meitner&#8217;s interpretation, the mathematical formula, which was the discovery, not a much repeated but otherwise inexplicable experiment.</p>
<p>Einstein balked at giving this equation to the U.S., as he knew the U.S. to be a fascist country, but Einstein, much of whose genius was attributable to the ideas he stole from his first wife and other females, was in the habit of listening to females. </p>
<p>And as far as I can tell, Meitner, who was of Jewish descent and thus barely escaped the forced prostitution of Ravensbruck concentration camp, or being made into a lampshade or a bar of soap after being worked to death, was much too smart to have come to any other conclusion than that reached by Alice Walker and Zora Neale Hurston.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m 67, and I know of only two contemporary males who &#8220;get it,&#8221; Juan Santos, and you, Stan. It almosts reminds me of that Bible story about saving the city for 10 good men, okay 9, well 8, uh&#8230;7, maybe 6, sure 5 would do, would you settle for 4, 3, 2, 1&#8230;.BOMBS AWAY!</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
		<link>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/07/07/the-obscenity/#comment-80582</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 07:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/07/07/the-obscenity/#comment-80582</guid>
		<description>My grandson joined the Marines , against his entire families' wishes.  A few weeks into basic training his shoulder became re-damaged.  He had gotten a doctor to write a letter after the army turned him down.  I despair when a young man wants to go into the service at this time.  He is sure that Iraq was behind 9/11, he believes every word FOX news reports.  It doesn't matter what anyone says to him.  How many ignorant young people are there that are so willing to become corpses and/or murderers?  Fortunately for me, my grandson was kicked out of the marines, but that doesn't help anyone else.

STAN:  Send him links to Smedley Butler's statements.  Does he like to read?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My grandson joined the Marines , against his entire families&#8217; wishes.  A few weeks into basic training his shoulder became re-damaged.  He had gotten a doctor to write a letter after the army turned him down.  I despair when a young man wants to go into the service at this time.  He is sure that Iraq was behind 9/11, he believes every word FOX news reports.  It doesn&#8217;t matter what anyone says to him.  How many ignorant young people are there that are so willing to become corpses and/or murderers?  Fortunately for me, my grandson was kicked out of the marines, but that doesn&#8217;t help anyone else.</p>
<p>STAN:  Send him links to Smedley Butler&#8217;s statements.  Does he like to read?</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Kachouroff</title>
		<link>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/07/07/the-obscenity/#comment-80536</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Kachouroff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/07/07/the-obscenity/#comment-80536</guid>
		<description>Stan,

If you'll add, "Vote for any candidate who'll uphold the Constitution like RP" then I'll (gulp) agree with you.

With respect to the stone work, I have to give you some encouragement: Suck it up and drive on. It could be worse. You could be in the black of midnight with no illumination at an altitude of 800 feet, a 100lb ruck dangling between your legs because the quick release functioned improperly, and with about four seconds to determine if you're going to break a bone or hit some trees. 

Now think of that in a hot LZ. You've landed, been separated for a period of days, pursued by those who wish to kill you, and now have no water. I can only imagine that this is how you formed a few Marxist principles admidst a parched throat dying for a cool drop of water from the hand of Lazarus.  

Of course, you can also picture yourself as the pursuer who sees what appears to be a canopy in the sky. Her heart races as she sees a superior soldier, one trained in the black arts. She knows her odds are slim. But, she pursues with numerous others, a jaw bone in hand. Hmmm? Stone work is not that bad after all now is it?

Yeah, an old fart (red at that) like you doesn't fool a young buck like me. You're probably in better shape than most of your bloggers, including myself.

PS - Take some candy and reblog when you're better.

STAN:  Chris, you were bounced once, and now you are making this weird attempt at some kind of martial male-bonding.  The ruck dangling between the legs is particularly strange... hey, since you've psychologized me (with a biblical twist), fair's fair.  We don't do that here... that male-bonding exclusionary oooohhh-lala-I've-been-there-dark-arts macho thing.  No mas, por favor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan,</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ll add, &#8220;Vote for any candidate who&#8217;ll uphold the Constitution like RP&#8221; then I&#8217;ll (gulp) agree with you.</p>
<p>With respect to the stone work, I have to give you some encouragement: Suck it up and drive on. It could be worse. You could be in the black of midnight with no illumination at an altitude of 800 feet, a 100lb ruck dangling between your legs because the quick release functioned improperly, and with about four seconds to determine if you&#8217;re going to break a bone or hit some trees. </p>
<p>Now think of that in a hot LZ. You&#8217;ve landed, been separated for a period of days, pursued by those who wish to kill you, and now have no water. I can only imagine that this is how you formed a few Marxist principles admidst a parched throat dying for a cool drop of water from the hand of Lazarus.  </p>
<p>Of course, you can also picture yourself as the pursuer who sees what appears to be a canopy in the sky. Her heart races as she sees a superior soldier, one trained in the black arts. She knows her odds are slim. But, she pursues with numerous others, a jaw bone in hand. Hmmm? Stone work is not that bad after all now is it?</p>
<p>Yeah, an old fart (red at that) like you doesn&#8217;t fool a young buck like me. You&#8217;re probably in better shape than most of your bloggers, including myself.</p>
<p>PS - Take some candy and reblog when you&#8217;re better.</p>
<p>STAN:  Chris, you were bounced once, and now you are making this weird attempt at some kind of martial male-bonding.  The ruck dangling between the legs is particularly strange&#8230; hey, since you&#8217;ve psychologized me (with a biblical twist), fair&#8217;s fair.  We don&#8217;t do that here&#8230; that male-bonding exclusionary oooohhh-lala-I&#8217;ve-been-there-dark-arts macho thing.  No mas, por favor.</p>
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		<title>By: xenia</title>
		<link>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/07/07/the-obscenity/#comment-80338</link>
		<dc:creator>xenia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/07/07/the-obscenity/#comment-80338</guid>
		<description>Many people I know had to switch from middle-class jobs to manual labor in their fifties...most of them tell me, at first it is very painful and then it becomes easier, even as you approach your sixties. It's amazing what human beings do to survive.

So, keep on hitting, and keep on thinking and writing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many people I know had to switch from middle-class jobs to manual labor in their fifties&#8230;most of them tell me, at first it is very painful and then it becomes easier, even as you approach your sixties. It&#8217;s amazing what human beings do to survive.</p>
<p>So, keep on hitting, and keep on thinking and writing!</p>
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		<title>By: fedupwithhypocrisy</title>
		<link>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/07/07/the-obscenity/#comment-80266</link>
		<dc:creator>fedupwithhypocrisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 02:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/07/07/the-obscenity/#comment-80266</guid>
		<description>I already posted on Huffington, but will stop here to urge you to continue posting there--make people think.

I share your pain--these are frustrating times.  I think Rice was right in comparing rising democracy to birth pangs, but not to justify their mideast policy.  We are in the midst of consciousness evolution; the world is moving away from isms and pbobias, and the white, rich, middle-aged, fat-assed white men will not give up easily.

I don't pretend to be able to follow its teachings, but the Tao de Ching reminds that we are no more significant than rocks or water.  I believe individuals contribute, but I can't say that events would not unfold as they are want, anyway.

As you suggest, sleep and pray.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I already posted on Huffington, but will stop here to urge you to continue posting there&#8211;make people think.</p>
<p>I share your pain&#8211;these are frustrating times.  I think Rice was right in comparing rising democracy to birth pangs, but not to justify their mideast policy.  We are in the midst of consciousness evolution; the world is moving away from isms and pbobias, and the white, rich, middle-aged, fat-assed white men will not give up easily.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t pretend to be able to follow its teachings, but the Tao de Ching reminds that we are no more significant than rocks or water.  I believe individuals contribute, but I can&#8217;t say that events would not unfold as they are want, anyway.</p>
<p>As you suggest, sleep and pray.</p>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
		<link>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/07/07/the-obscenity/#comment-80222</link>
		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2007/07/07/the-obscenity/#comment-80222</guid>
		<description>Stan,

This motivated the hell out of me.  I just signed the pledge.

I also just wanted to say 'thanks', in general.  I've enjoyed your work for some time now, as a regular reader of The Beast, a magazine based up here in Buffalo, NY.

MJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan,</p>
<p>This motivated the hell out of me.  I just signed the pledge.</p>
<p>I also just wanted to say &#8216;thanks&#8217;, in general.  I&#8217;ve enjoyed your work for some time now, as a regular reader of The Beast, a magazine based up here in Buffalo, NY.</p>
<p>MJ</p>
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