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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/16/world/middleeast/16sadr.html?_r=2&amp;hp&amp;oref=slogin&amp;oref=slogin&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A company of Iraqi soldiers abandoned their positions on Tuesday night in Sadr City, defying American soldiers who implored them to hold the line against Shiite militias.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/16/world/middleeast/16sadr.html?_r=2&#038;hp&#038;oref=slogin&#038;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">A company of Iraqi soldiers abandoned their positions on Tuesday night in Sadr City, defying American soldiers who implored them to hold the line against Shiite militias.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
		<link>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2008/03/27/good-morning-vietnam/#comment-155877</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back at home... &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JD16Ak02.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How to Shoot Yourself in the Foot in Three Easy Steps&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back at home&#8230; <i><a href="http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JD16Ak02.html" rel="nofollow">How to Shoot Yourself in the Foot in Three Easy Steps</a></i></p>
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		<title>By: pierre</title>
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		<dc:creator>pierre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stan, what are the relationships between Moqtada Al-Sadr and the diverse factions competing for political power in Iran ?
Thanks for your insights , 
Pierre

STAN:  I&#039;m no authority, but I don&#039;t know of any special relations between the Sadrists and Iran.  The SCIRI,  or whatever it&#039;s been recently re-named, is much closer to Iran.  In any case, as is usually the case in international relations, the government in power is who external entities relate to, and it would be seriously risky for those external folk to do otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan, what are the relationships between Moqtada Al-Sadr and the diverse factions competing for political power in Iran ?<br />
Thanks for your insights ,<br />
Pierre</p>
<p>STAN:  I&#8217;m no authority, but I don&#8217;t know of any special relations between the Sadrists and Iran.  The SCIRI,  or whatever it&#8217;s been recently re-named, is much closer to Iran.  In any case, as is usually the case in international relations, the government in power is who external entities relate to, and it would be seriously risky for those external folk to do otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 10:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Follow-up stories on the US/Maliki/Hakim defeat, and the Iranian brokers that stopped the fighting.

&lt;blockquote&gt;US Iraq intelligence summary classified SECRET on Iranian infiltration, Al-Sadr, Mahdi army, COA Scimitar, SCIRI and BADR corps, weapons and money laundering, etc. and dated June 23, 2006. The report has been privately verified by Wikileaks. Two small redactions were viewed as necessary to protect intelligence sources.&lt;/blockquote&gt;  &lt;a href=&quot;http ://wikileaks.org/wiki/US_Iraq_intelligence_summary_on_Iranian_infiltration%2C_Al-Sadr%2C_Mahdi_army_et_al_%282006%29&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wikileaks&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Out of the dramatic developments of the past week, several questions arise, the principal being that the Bush administration&#039;s triumphalism over the so-called Iraq &quot;surge&quot; strategy has become irredeemably farcical, and, two, US doublespeak has become badly exposed. What stands out is that Washington promoted the latest round of violence in Basra, whereas Iran cried halt to it. The awesome influence of Tehran has become all too apparent. How does Bush come to terms with it?
&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http ://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JD03Ak02.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bhadrakumar&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;President George W Bush&#039;s self-described &quot;defining moment&quot; in Iraq amounted to this: General Qassem Suleimani, the head of the Quds Force of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) , brokered a deal in Qom, Iran, between Shi&#039;ite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr&#039;s envoys and Hadi al-Amri, the head of the Badr Organization and number two to Adbul Aziz al-Hakim, the head of the the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council (SIIC) and a key player of the government in Baghdad. That sealed the end of the battle of Basra.

The IRGC was designated last year by Washington as a terrorist organization. Thus Iranian &quot;terrorists&quot; brokered a peace deal between the two largest Shi&#039;ite parties in Iraq - ending a Baghdad government offensive that was fully authorized and supported by air power by Washington, according to Bush&#039;s National Security Adviser Steven Hadley. Even under Bush logic, &quot;the terrorists&quot; won, and Iran won - once again.&lt;/blockquote&gt;  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JD03Ak01.html&quot;http ://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JD03Ak01.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pepe Escobar&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://books.google.com/books?id=hbOTaRy0C8MC&amp;pg=PA79&amp;lpg=PA79&amp;dq=stan+goff+kurdistan&amp;source=web&amp;ots=S9Z-0qOZaJ&amp;sig=uRY3vsBhnwX0mtgJV0lzW9U2WDw&amp;hl=en#PPA80,M1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;old stuff on Iraqi Kurdistan&lt;/a&gt;

from March 2003:  &lt;blockquote&gt;Without its Northern Front, the US
is more dependent than ever on using Kurdish
combatants to fight the Iraqis around the rich
oilfields near Kirkuk.

Fragile Turkey is beset by a severe economic crisis.
Its majority Muslim population has just elected a
moderate Islamic Party, and the popular opposition to
the war is overwhelming.

The Turkish ruling class cannot afford another
insurrection from Kurdish nationalists, and the
Turkish military has no intention of watching a
Kurdish state take form to their South. Turkey, inside
its stable exterior, is becoming a powder keg, and
Kurdistan is a furnace.

The political implications reach deep into Europe,
where one year ago the US saw the admission of Turkey
as advancing in the EU. Germany, for instance, has a
substantial population of Turks and Kurds, and the
German government has a real and justifiable fear that
open warfare in Iraqi Kurdistan will spill over into
the streets of Germany.

To mollify the Kurds, the US must hold back the
Turkish military, and the Kurds will certainly not
abandon their dream for an independent Kurdistan. To
appease the Turkish military, the US will have to
disarm the Kurds. And the Kurds, even as they sign the
deal with the devil, know it. The Kurds have no
intention of relinquishing their weapons, their
autonomy or their dream of an independent nation. The
Turks have no intention of allowing it. The US cannot
have it both ways.

Stay tuned.&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.green-rainbow.org/pipermail/statecom-discuss/2003-March/000139.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FULL&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Follow-up stories on the US/Maliki/Hakim defeat, and the Iranian brokers that stopped the fighting.</p>
<blockquote><p>US Iraq intelligence summary classified SECRET on Iranian infiltration, Al-Sadr, Mahdi army, COA Scimitar, SCIRI and BADR corps, weapons and money laundering, etc. and dated June 23, 2006. The report has been privately verified by Wikileaks. Two small redactions were viewed as necessary to protect intelligence sources.</p></blockquote>
<p>  <a href="http ://wikileaks.org/wiki/US_Iraq_intelligence_summary_on_Iranian_infiltration%2C_Al-Sadr%2C_Mahdi_army_et_al_%282006%29" rel="nofollow">Wikileaks</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Out of the dramatic developments of the past week, several questions arise, the principal being that the Bush administration&#8217;s triumphalism over the so-called Iraq &#8220;surge&#8221; strategy has become irredeemably farcical, and, two, US doublespeak has become badly exposed. What stands out is that Washington promoted the latest round of violence in Basra, whereas Iran cried halt to it. The awesome influence of Tehran has become all too apparent. How does Bush come to terms with it?
</p></blockquote>
<p> <a href="http ://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JD03Ak02.html" rel="nofollow">Bhadrakumar</a></p>
<blockquote><p>President George W Bush&#8217;s self-described &#8220;defining moment&#8221; in Iraq amounted to this: General Qassem Suleimani, the head of the Quds Force of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) , brokered a deal in Qom, Iran, between Shi&#8217;ite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr&#8217;s envoys and Hadi al-Amri, the head of the Badr Organization and number two to Adbul Aziz al-Hakim, the head of the the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council (SIIC) and a key player of the government in Baghdad. That sealed the end of the battle of Basra.</p>
<p>The IRGC was designated last year by Washington as a terrorist organization. Thus Iranian &#8220;terrorists&#8221; brokered a peace deal between the two largest Shi&#8217;ite parties in Iraq &#8211; ending a Baghdad government offensive that was fully authorized and supported by air power by Washington, according to Bush&#8217;s National Security Adviser Steven Hadley. Even under Bush logic, &#8220;the terrorists&#8221; won, and Iran won &#8211; once again.</p></blockquote>
<p>  <a href="http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JD03Ak01.html"http ://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JD03Ak01.html" rel="nofollow">Pepe Escobar</a></p>
<p><a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=hbOTaRy0C8MC&#038;pg=PA79&#038;lpg=PA79&#038;dq=stan+goff+kurdistan&#038;source=web&#038;ots=S9Z-0qOZaJ&#038;sig=uRY3vsBhnwX0mtgJV0lzW9U2WDw&#038;hl=en#PPA80,M1" rel="nofollow">old stuff on Iraqi Kurdistan</a></p>
<p>from March 2003:<br />
<blockquote>Without its Northern Front, the US<br />
is more dependent than ever on using Kurdish<br />
combatants to fight the Iraqis around the rich<br />
oilfields near Kirkuk.</p>
<p>Fragile Turkey is beset by a severe economic crisis.<br />
Its majority Muslim population has just elected a<br />
moderate Islamic Party, and the popular opposition to<br />
the war is overwhelming.</p>
<p>The Turkish ruling class cannot afford another<br />
insurrection from Kurdish nationalists, and the<br />
Turkish military has no intention of watching a<br />
Kurdish state take form to their South. Turkey, inside<br />
its stable exterior, is becoming a powder keg, and<br />
Kurdistan is a furnace.</p>
<p>The political implications reach deep into Europe,<br />
where one year ago the US saw the admission of Turkey<br />
as advancing in the EU. Germany, for instance, has a<br />
substantial population of Turks and Kurds, and the<br />
German government has a real and justifiable fear that<br />
open warfare in Iraqi Kurdistan will spill over into<br />
the streets of Germany.</p>
<p>To mollify the Kurds, the US must hold back the<br />
Turkish military, and the Kurds will certainly not<br />
abandon their dream for an independent Kurdistan. To<br />
appease the Turkish military, the US will have to<br />
disarm the Kurds. And the Kurds, even as they sign the<br />
deal with the devil, know it. The Kurds have no<br />
intention of relinquishing their weapons, their<br />
autonomy or their dream of an independent nation. The<br />
Turks have no intention of allowing it. The US cannot<br />
have it both ways.</p>
<p>Stay tuned.</p></blockquote>
<p> <a href="http://www.green-rainbow.org/pipermail/statecom-discuss/2003-March/000139.html" rel="nofollow">FULL</a></p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, We, the People, are the only ones who can save US. 
As to the role of war ( or &quot;peace&quot;) in that, in 1917, Russian failure in WWI was not the revolution, but it was a big factor in precipitating the overthrow of the Czar and then the bourgeois govt.  &quot;Peace, Land and Bread&quot; was the slogan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, We, the People, are the only ones who can save US.<br />
As to the role of war ( or &#8220;peace&#8221;) in that, in 1917, Russian failure in WWI was not the revolution, but it was a big factor in precipitating the overthrow of the Czar and then the bourgeois govt.  &#8220;Peace, Land and Bread&#8221; was the slogan</p>
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		<title>By: DeAnander</title>
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		<dc:creator>DeAnander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but maybe the US&#039; Rubicon?  the river they&#039;re gonna wish someday they had never crossed?

actually it&#039;s hard to come up with suitable historical analogies for the US, since history doesn&#039;t repeat itself -- as wossname said, &quot;but it rhymes.&quot;

it&#039;s odd ... everyone sitting around watching the great spinning top (with buzz saw attachments and spikes) that is the US hegemonic machinery, weaving and teetering drunkenly but &lt;i&gt;still spinning&lt;/i&gt;, wobbling erratically in destructive arcs as it slows down, but &lt;i&gt;still spinning&lt;/i&gt;, and we all wonder which will be the last wobble, where will it fall, who will be crushed under it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but maybe the US&#8217; Rubicon?  the river they&#8217;re gonna wish someday they had never crossed?</p>
<p>actually it&#8217;s hard to come up with suitable historical analogies for the US, since history doesn&#8217;t repeat itself &#8212; as wossname said, &#8220;but it rhymes.&#8221;</p>
<p>it&#8217;s odd &#8230; everyone sitting around watching the great spinning top (with buzz saw attachments and spikes) that is the US hegemonic machinery, weaving and teetering drunkenly but <i>still spinning</i>, wobbling erratically in destructive arcs as it slows down, but <i>still spinning</i>, and we all wonder which will be the last wobble, where will it fall, who will be crushed under it.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh that it were the Stalingrad.  The Nazis never recovered from that one.  But the Brits did recover form Dunkirk.  Anyone who thinks the US is going bleed out from Iraq isn&#039;t paying attention.  Iraq signals the end of US conventional military supremacy.  It still has the global currency; it still has the bomb.  Our Stalingrad will ultimately have to come fron within.  We aren&#039;t even close to that yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh that it were the Stalingrad.  The Nazis never recovered from that one.  But the Brits did recover form Dunkirk.  Anyone who thinks the US is going bleed out from Iraq isn&#8217;t paying attention.  Iraq signals the end of US conventional military supremacy.  It still has the global currency; it still has the bomb.  Our Stalingrad will ultimately have to come fron within.  We aren&#8217;t even close to that yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the Dunkirk of US hegemony 

^^^
Although in this case, the US is analagous to the fascist invaders. Maybe  The Stalingrad of US hegemony ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the Dunkirk of US hegemony </p>
<p>^^^<br />
Although in this case, the US is analagous to the fascist invaders. Maybe  The Stalingrad of US hegemony ?</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 11:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Sadr has always displayed -- to the befuddlement and chagrin of his American rivals -- is an understanding of the simple formula... success in military operations is ultimately determined not by tactical, but by &lt;strong&gt;political&lt;/strong&gt;, outcomes.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JD02Ak02.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This piece by Gareth Porter over at AT&lt;/a&gt; does a pretty good job of showing what that looked like in the recent humiliation of the Petraeus-Maliki Axis.  The tactical outcomes were critically important, of course, but they were based in large part by the correct calculation of popular political support by Sadr, and on the gross underestimation of the same by Petraeus and Maliki.  This is the second tactical/political defeat that Sadr has delivered to the US.  I doubt it is the last.

Now the parliamentary elections will go forward with the Mahdi intact and immensely popularized, and Hakim&#039;s forces substantially weakened.

Sadr continues to reach out to non-partitionist Sunnis with a message of Iraqi nationalism... and sovereignty.  This brings the heliborne evacuation of the Green Zone -- the Dunkirk of US hegemony -- a day closer.  There is certainlly panic in the backrooms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Sadr has always displayed &#8212; to the befuddlement and chagrin of his American rivals &#8212; is an understanding of the simple formula&#8230; success in military operations is ultimately determined not by tactical, but by <strong>political</strong>, outcomes.  <a href="http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JD02Ak02.html" rel="nofollow">This piece by Gareth Porter over at AT</a> does a pretty good job of showing what that looked like in the recent humiliation of the Petraeus-Maliki Axis.  The tactical outcomes were critically important, of course, but they were based in large part by the correct calculation of popular political support by Sadr, and on the gross underestimation of the same by Petraeus and Maliki.  This is the second tactical/political defeat that Sadr has delivered to the US.  I doubt it is the last.</p>
<p>Now the parliamentary elections will go forward with the Mahdi intact and immensely popularized, and Hakim&#8217;s forces substantially weakened.</p>
<p>Sadr continues to reach out to non-partitionist Sunnis with a message of Iraqi nationalism&#8230; and sovereignty.  This brings the heliborne evacuation of the Green Zone &#8212; the Dunkirk of US hegemony &#8212; a day closer.  There is certainlly panic in the backrooms.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 04:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RB W/Mi, sounds like you&#039;re pretty demoralized. When I feel that way, I find it helps me alot to take in some ideas from our side, to counteract all the demoralizing messages from the other team. I reccomend music, there is at least a few bands in every single kind of music who are chucking out humanist lyrics and ideas. I like folk, rap. country and rock myself, and have many CDs full of amazing artists doing these types of music with lyrics and messages designed to reinvigorate and refresh us when we grow weary. I also suggest limiting your exposure to the corporate media until you are feeling more hopeful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RB W/Mi, sounds like you&#8217;re pretty demoralized. When I feel that way, I find it helps me alot to take in some ideas from our side, to counteract all the demoralizing messages from the other team. I reccomend music, there is at least a few bands in every single kind of music who are chucking out humanist lyrics and ideas. I like folk, rap. country and rock myself, and have many CDs full of amazing artists doing these types of music with lyrics and messages designed to reinvigorate and refresh us when we grow weary. I also suggest limiting your exposure to the corporate media until you are feeling more hopeful.</p>
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