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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2008/04/29/wright-obama/#comment-193617</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;All heads of state that are or have ever been - whether kings, queens, presidents, whatever - have blood on their hands. Maybe there are a few exceptions, but off the top of my head, I cannot name any.&quot;

Therefore....?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;All heads of state that are or have ever been &#8211; whether kings, queens, presidents, whatever &#8211; have blood on their hands. Maybe there are a few exceptions, but off the top of my head, I cannot name any.&#8221;</p>
<p>Therefore&#8230;.?</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 15:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this “neoliberalism”? I don’t think it is. It’s part of the general response of corporate capital to the crisis that began in the 70’s, which was, one way and another, to “solve the crisis at the working people’s expense” as European leftists used to put it in those days

^^^
I disagree with you. Neo-liberalism is precisely &quot;   the general response of corporate capital to the crisis that began in the 70’s, which was, one way and another, to “solve the crisis at the working people’s expense &quot; . Reaganism and Thatcherism are Neo-liberalism. Neo-liberalism is _not_ confined to foreign policy. It has domestic and foreign aspects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this “neoliberalism”? I don’t think it is. It’s part of the general response of corporate capital to the crisis that began in the 70’s, which was, one way and another, to “solve the crisis at the working people’s expense” as European leftists used to put it in those days</p>
<p>^^^<br />
I disagree with you. Neo-liberalism is precisely &#8221;   the general response of corporate capital to the crisis that began in the 70’s, which was, one way and another, to “solve the crisis at the working people’s expense &#8221; . Reaganism and Thatcherism are Neo-liberalism. Neo-liberalism is _not_ confined to foreign policy. It has domestic and foreign aspects.</p>
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		<title>By: rootlesscosmo</title>
		<link>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2008/04/29/wright-obama/#comment-193087</link>
		<dc:creator>rootlesscosmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; California Prop some number, Howard whathisname&lt;/i&gt;

During the 1970&#039;s, for multiple reasons, there was rapid inflation in California home prices. Under the laws then in force, this meant that homeowners, including retirees on fixed incomes, found their homes being reassessed annually and their property tax liability climbing much faster than their ability to pay (or the general rate of inflation for that matter.) The outrage over this was readily translated into anger at  the supposed beneficiaries of tax-funded government generosity, i.e. the Black poor, who for reasons no one could explain were believed to enjoy special favor from &quot;the politicians.&quot; (I heard variants of this argument from my white fellow-railroaders all through 1978.)

Into this situation stepped Howard Jarvis, a lobbyist for an association of commercial real estate owners. He and others crafted Proposition 13, which promised to freeze or roll back assessments on real estate, with reassessment taking place only when property changed hands. Of course most of the benefit went to his corporate clients, since commercial property turns over much more slowly than private homes, but he had tapped into a combination of economic desperation and racist vindictiveness, and the measure passed with a large majority. Thirty years later, though the negative effects are obvious (the best book is &lt;i&gt;Paradise Lost,&lt;/i&gt; by longtime Sacramento &lt;i&gt;Bee&lt;/i&gt; reporter Peter Schrag), 13 is still regarded as sacrosanct in California politics, and polls show most voters still support it--even those who barely know what it provided, or that it&#039;s the reason a simple court filing fee jumped from $14 to $300, or that local governments (barred from raising property taxes) have been forced to offer lavish inducements to &quot;big box&quot; retail (a fortress of anti-unionism) in order to collect sales taxes, or that California schools and roads, once among the nation&#039;s best, are now a national disgrace... I could go on.

Is this &quot;neoliberalism&quot;? I don&#039;t think it is. It&#039;s part of the general response of corporate capital to the crisis that began in the 70&#039;s, which was, one way and another, to &quot;solve the crisis at the working people&#039;s expense&quot; as European leftists used to put it in those days; neoliberal economic policies in foreign investment, credit, and trade also are part of this general solution. But I think they&#039;re distinct, and are oriented on different sectors of capital. Prop. 13&#039;s supporters didn&#039;t, and don&#039;t, care about Argentina&#039;s debt service; they mostly think &quot;foreign aid&quot; is another case of brainless largesse to the undeserving. Their politics is a nasty brew of spite, greed, and self-righteousness, what I&#039;ve come to think of as the &quot;foot-stamping&quot; response to social problems: don&#039;t tell me a lot of details, dammit, just shoot somebody or lock somebody up and make it go away. There was a rival measure in 1978, supported by organized labor, the Democrats, local government officials, PTAs etc., that would have amended the State constitution so commercial property could have been taxed at a different rate than homes; most voters found this not only too complicated but also emotionally unsatisfying. The Jarvis enthusiasts wanted more than tax relief, they wanted tax &lt;i&gt;revenge,&lt;/i&gt; and by God they got it, good and hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> California Prop some number, Howard whathisname</i></p>
<p>During the 1970&#8242;s, for multiple reasons, there was rapid inflation in California home prices. Under the laws then in force, this meant that homeowners, including retirees on fixed incomes, found their homes being reassessed annually and their property tax liability climbing much faster than their ability to pay (or the general rate of inflation for that matter.) The outrage over this was readily translated into anger at  the supposed beneficiaries of tax-funded government generosity, i.e. the Black poor, who for reasons no one could explain were believed to enjoy special favor from &#8220;the politicians.&#8221; (I heard variants of this argument from my white fellow-railroaders all through 1978.)</p>
<p>Into this situation stepped Howard Jarvis, a lobbyist for an association of commercial real estate owners. He and others crafted Proposition 13, which promised to freeze or roll back assessments on real estate, with reassessment taking place only when property changed hands. Of course most of the benefit went to his corporate clients, since commercial property turns over much more slowly than private homes, but he had tapped into a combination of economic desperation and racist vindictiveness, and the measure passed with a large majority. Thirty years later, though the negative effects are obvious (the best book is <i>Paradise Lost,</i> by longtime Sacramento <i>Bee</i> reporter Peter Schrag), 13 is still regarded as sacrosanct in California politics, and polls show most voters still support it&#8211;even those who barely know what it provided, or that it&#8217;s the reason a simple court filing fee jumped from $14 to $300, or that local governments (barred from raising property taxes) have been forced to offer lavish inducements to &#8220;big box&#8221; retail (a fortress of anti-unionism) in order to collect sales taxes, or that California schools and roads, once among the nation&#8217;s best, are now a national disgrace&#8230; I could go on.</p>
<p>Is this &#8220;neoliberalism&#8221;? I don&#8217;t think it is. It&#8217;s part of the general response of corporate capital to the crisis that began in the 70&#8242;s, which was, one way and another, to &#8220;solve the crisis at the working people&#8217;s expense&#8221; as European leftists used to put it in those days; neoliberal economic policies in foreign investment, credit, and trade also are part of this general solution. But I think they&#8217;re distinct, and are oriented on different sectors of capital. Prop. 13&#8242;s supporters didn&#8217;t, and don&#8217;t, care about Argentina&#8217;s debt service; they mostly think &#8220;foreign aid&#8221; is another case of brainless largesse to the undeserving. Their politics is a nasty brew of spite, greed, and self-righteousness, what I&#8217;ve come to think of as the &#8220;foot-stamping&#8221; response to social problems: don&#8217;t tell me a lot of details, dammit, just shoot somebody or lock somebody up and make it go away. There was a rival measure in 1978, supported by organized labor, the Democrats, local government officials, PTAs etc., that would have amended the State constitution so commercial property could have been taxed at a different rate than homes; most voters found this not only too complicated but also emotionally unsatisfying. The Jarvis enthusiasts wanted more than tax relief, they wanted tax <i>revenge,</i> and by God they got it, good and hard.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 17:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not redefining the term. I am using &quot;neo-liberalism&quot; as defined by most left thinkers on it.

Neo-liberalism , as generally defined, includes domestic capitalism. Neo-liberalism is privatzation overseas, and privatization in Detroit, domestically.  I wrote papers  years ago on how privatization in Detroit ( not only domestically, but locally) was part of neo-liberal privatization globally. Privatization started with Thatcher _domestically_ in Britain. Neo-liberalism includes deregulation of banking , _domestically_ in the United States. When the Reaganites deregulated _domestically_, that was part of neo-liberalism.

Neo-liberalism includes the reduction of welfare, welfare _de_form is a component of neo-liberalism.  Gingrich&#039;s &quot;Contract on America &quot; was part of neo-liberalism. 

_Neo-liberalism_ refers to both international and national (domestic) capitalist poliicies starting especially with Reagan&#039;s presidency. Neo-liberalism is Reaganomics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not redefining the term. I am using &#8220;neo-liberalism&#8221; as defined by most left thinkers on it.</p>
<p>Neo-liberalism , as generally defined, includes domestic capitalism. Neo-liberalism is privatzation overseas, and privatization in Detroit, domestically.  I wrote papers  years ago on how privatization in Detroit ( not only domestically, but locally) was part of neo-liberal privatization globally. Privatization started with Thatcher _domestically_ in Britain. Neo-liberalism includes deregulation of banking , _domestically_ in the United States. When the Reaganites deregulated _domestically_, that was part of neo-liberalism.</p>
<p>Neo-liberalism includes the reduction of welfare, welfare _de_form is a component of neo-liberalism.  Gingrich&#8217;s &#8220;Contract on America &#8221; was part of neo-liberalism. </p>
<p>_Neo-liberalism_ refers to both international and national (domestic) capitalist poliicies starting especially with Reagan&#8217;s presidency. Neo-liberalism is Reaganomics.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 10:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You cannot redefine the term in order to show that doesn&#039;t apply to Obama.  Neoliberalism is a &lt;i&gt;global&lt;/i&gt; (read inter-national) phenomenon.  It is not domestic capitalism, but a retrenched form of imperialism... it takes in goods from the periphery to the core, then exports the waste and disorder back onto the periphery.  If Obama abrogates NAFTA etc, then we might take him seriously on this account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You cannot redefine the term in order to show that doesn&#8217;t apply to Obama.  Neoliberalism is a <i>global</i> (read inter-national) phenomenon.  It is not domestic capitalism, but a retrenched form of imperialism&#8230; it takes in goods from the periphery to the core, then exports the waste and disorder back onto the periphery.  If Obama abrogates NAFTA etc, then we might take him seriously on this account.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neoliberalism dresses its ideology up in market trashtalk, but the “free trade” practice at its core is about tearing open other nations’ internal markets to US predation and plunder. Obama has never given the slightest indication he disagrees with this;

^^^^^
CB: Tax cuts for the rich, Reagan&#039;s Laffer curve, rightwing tax cut revolts, as in California Prop some number, Howard whathisname,  are neo-liberalism. Barry O has spoken against the Bush tax cuts for the rich and for tax cuts for the middle class. This is anti-neo-liberal rhetoric.

Obama as spoken ( talk is cheap) against tax breaks for corporations who runawayshops and still get tax breaks in tax haven. Tax havens for runaway corporation is neo-liberalism, thus this is speakng out against neo-liberalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neoliberalism dresses its ideology up in market trashtalk, but the “free trade” practice at its core is about tearing open other nations’ internal markets to US predation and plunder. Obama has never given the slightest indication he disagrees with this;</p>
<p>^^^^^<br />
CB: Tax cuts for the rich, Reagan&#8217;s Laffer curve, rightwing tax cut revolts, as in California Prop some number, Howard whathisname,  are neo-liberalism. Barry O has spoken against the Bush tax cuts for the rich and for tax cuts for the middle class. This is anti-neo-liberal rhetoric.</p>
<p>Obama as spoken ( talk is cheap) against tax breaks for corporations who runawayshops and still get tax breaks in tax haven. Tax havens for runaway corporation is neo-liberalism, thus this is speakng out against neo-liberalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Y.K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Y.K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not so convinced that the Clinton dynasty will quit. They have certainly denied Obama the momentum of a primary election victory. They could extend the contest all summer and possibly prevail at the end. She claims that she is an &quot;underdog&quot; with the &quot;popular vote&quot; while Obama has the &quot;delegate count&quot;, making him the &quot;elitist&quot; focused on a technical win and supported by &quot;the media&quot;. Although there was a strong reaction against her assassination comments by liberal intellectuals, there has not been as strong and consistent reaction against her populist claims, especially as the Clinton faction has continued to lie loudly about the spirit and letter of the Democratic primary contest rules. Her claims have resonance with some Democrats due to the last two presidential elections and effectively strengthens her populist credentials, creates a electoral strategy of tension, and perpetuates a racist and sexist discourse. Finally, the atmosphere of cynicism and the erosion of the party &quot;elders&quot;, specifically Kennedy (materially with cancer) and Carter (ideologically with criticism of Israel), has opened up space for the ambitions of the younger bosses in the Democratic right. Soon, there are no more contests, just big money and media manipulation. There is a fascist whiff to all these developments and I&#039;m not sure whether this opens or closes a space for the left, especially with the specter of an attack on Iran and the effective delay of the credit bubble collapse, two events which could reshape sufficiently the discursive focus toward &quot;national security&quot;. 

This article discusses possible outcomes for the Clinton faction:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JF03Aa01.html

This mealy-mouthed CNN article counts the delegates and popular vote three different ways, aiding Clinton:
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/02/democrats.race/index.html

YK

PS I refuse to vote for the Republocrats/Demopublicans, so I&#039;m more interested in the social politics of these electoral machinations.

PPS I further maintain that the relative dead-heat of recent electoral contests is due not only to direct manipulation but also to the increased presence of financial sector cash, which hedges bets through campaign money to create relatively zero risk to themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not so convinced that the Clinton dynasty will quit. They have certainly denied Obama the momentum of a primary election victory. They could extend the contest all summer and possibly prevail at the end. She claims that she is an &#8220;underdog&#8221; with the &#8220;popular vote&#8221; while Obama has the &#8220;delegate count&#8221;, making him the &#8220;elitist&#8221; focused on a technical win and supported by &#8220;the media&#8221;. Although there was a strong reaction against her assassination comments by liberal intellectuals, there has not been as strong and consistent reaction against her populist claims, especially as the Clinton faction has continued to lie loudly about the spirit and letter of the Democratic primary contest rules. Her claims have resonance with some Democrats due to the last two presidential elections and effectively strengthens her populist credentials, creates a electoral strategy of tension, and perpetuates a racist and sexist discourse. Finally, the atmosphere of cynicism and the erosion of the party &#8220;elders&#8221;, specifically Kennedy (materially with cancer) and Carter (ideologically with criticism of Israel), has opened up space for the ambitions of the younger bosses in the Democratic right. Soon, there are no more contests, just big money and media manipulation. There is a fascist whiff to all these developments and I&#8217;m not sure whether this opens or closes a space for the left, especially with the specter of an attack on Iran and the effective delay of the credit bubble collapse, two events which could reshape sufficiently the discursive focus toward &#8220;national security&#8221;. </p>
<p>This article discusses possible outcomes for the Clinton faction:<br />
<a href="http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JF03Aa01.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JF03Aa01.html</a></p>
<p>This mealy-mouthed CNN article counts the delegates and popular vote three different ways, aiding Clinton:<br />
<a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/02/democrats.race/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/02/democrats.race/index.html</a></p>
<p>YK</p>
<p>PS I refuse to vote for the Republocrats/Demopublicans, so I&#8217;m more interested in the social politics of these electoral machinations.</p>
<p>PPS I further maintain that the relative dead-heat of recent electoral contests is due not only to direct manipulation but also to the increased presence of financial sector cash, which hedges bets through campaign money to create relatively zero risk to themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: DeAnander</title>
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		<dc:creator>DeAnander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=636&amp;Itemid=1 rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Link to a Glen Ford article at BAR&lt;/a&gt; which takes B.O. to task for his American Exceptionalist jingo, among other things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href=http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=636&#038;Itemid=1 rel="nofollow">Link to a Glen Ford article at BAR</a> which takes B.O. to task for his American Exceptionalist jingo, among other things.</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Reilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dick Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 07:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMO, Probably the best commentary on this comes from Glenn Ford and Bruce Dixon at Black Agenda Report. [http://www.blackagendareport.com/ 

Obama has now formally resigned from Trinity United Church of Christ. I&#039;ve never seen an entire church thrown under the bus before. No doubt soon to be joined by Tom Hayden and the cheerleaders at &quot;Progressives for Obama&quot;. It&#039;s getting pretty crowded under there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO, Probably the best commentary on this comes from Glenn Ford and Bruce Dixon at Black Agenda Report. [http://www.blackagendareport.com/ </p>
<p>Obama has now formally resigned from Trinity United Church of Christ. I&#8217;ve never seen an entire church thrown under the bus before. No doubt soon to be joined by Tom Hayden and the cheerleaders at &#8220;Progressives for Obama&#8221;. It&#8217;s getting pretty crowded under there.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 21:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neoliberalsim is the default.  It is not reproduced in the active voice, but in the passive.  Abandoning or reversing it would mean halting priviatization wholesale and beginning to reverse it, the reclamation of the commons, reliquishment of special rights within the IMF, abrogating &quot;free trade&quot; agreements, accepting other nations protections of their own capital markets, etc etc.  Being &quot;mainstream&quot; means being neoliberal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neoliberalsim is the default.  It is not reproduced in the active voice, but in the passive.  Abandoning or reversing it would mean halting priviatization wholesale and beginning to reverse it, the reclamation of the commons, reliquishment of special rights within the IMF, abrogating &#8220;free trade&#8221; agreements, accepting other nations protections of their own capital markets, etc etc.  Being &#8220;mainstream&#8221; means being neoliberal.</p>
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