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	<title>Comments on: Mike Davis on Swine Flu (&amp; capitalism)</title>
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		<title>By: Michael Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2009/04/27/mike-davis-on-swine-flu-capitalism/#comment-332614</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 07:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now, from sheer vanity wedded with economics; drug resistant bacteria from people coming back from cosmetic surgery in India and Pakistan!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/aug/12/new-superbug-drug-resistant-mrsa

A massive dose of unintended consequences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now, from sheer vanity wedded with economics; drug resistant bacteria from people coming back from cosmetic surgery in India and Pakistan!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/aug/12/new-superbug-drug-resistant-mrsa" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/aug/12/new-superbug-drug-resistant-mrsa</a></p>
<p>A massive dose of unintended consequences.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 18:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Food, Inc. (The Movie) opens June 12th

http://robertkennerfilms.com/films/files/detail_current.php

&lt;blockquote&gt;With a constituency limited to anyone who eats, &quot;Food, Inc.&quot; is a civilized horror movie for the socially conscious, the nutritionally curious and the hungry. Yes, it has a deceptively cheery palette, but helmer Robert Kenner&#039;s doc -- which does for the supermarket what &quot;Jaws&quot; did for the beach -- marches straight into the dark side of cutthroat agri-business, corporatized meat and the greedy manipulation of both genetics and the law. Doc biz may be in the doldrums, but &quot;Food, Inc.&quot; is so aesthetically polished and politically urgent, theatrical play seems a no-brainer, though it won&#039;t do much for popcorn sales.

Corn is the vegetable-as-villain in &quot;Food, Inc.,&quot; which builds on the work of nutritionists, journalists and activists Eric Schlosser (&quot;Fast Food Nation&quot;) and Michael Pollan (&quot;The Omnivore&#039;s Dilemma&quot;) to show how multinationals have taken over the production of food. As the movie tells us, corn -- which today assumes dozens of ubiquitous identities, notably high-fructose corn syrup -- is kept at unrealistically low prices by the government, is fed to animals that haven&#039;t evolved to eat it (such as the cow), causes those animals to develop maladies that must be treated with antibiotics (which are passed on to consumers), and has led to the mutation of new strains of the E.coli virus, which sickens tens of thousands each year.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Food, Inc. (The Movie) opens June 12th</p>
<p><a href="http://robertkennerfilms.com/films/files/detail_current.php" rel="nofollow">http://robertkennerfilms.com/films/files/detail_current.php</a></p>
<blockquote><p>With a constituency limited to anyone who eats, &#8220;Food, Inc.&#8221; is a civilized horror movie for the socially conscious, the nutritionally curious and the hungry. Yes, it has a deceptively cheery palette, but helmer Robert Kenner&#8217;s doc &#8212; which does for the supermarket what &#8220;Jaws&#8221; did for the beach &#8212; marches straight into the dark side of cutthroat agri-business, corporatized meat and the greedy manipulation of both genetics and the law. Doc biz may be in the doldrums, but &#8220;Food, Inc.&#8221; is so aesthetically polished and politically urgent, theatrical play seems a no-brainer, though it won&#8217;t do much for popcorn sales.</p>
<p>Corn is the vegetable-as-villain in &#8220;Food, Inc.,&#8221; which builds on the work of nutritionists, journalists and activists Eric Schlosser (&#8220;Fast Food Nation&#8221;) and Michael Pollan (&#8220;The Omnivore&#8217;s Dilemma&#8221;) to show how multinationals have taken over the production of food. As the movie tells us, corn &#8212; which today assumes dozens of ubiquitous identities, notably high-fructose corn syrup &#8212; is kept at unrealistically low prices by the government, is fed to animals that haven&#8217;t evolved to eat it (such as the cow), causes those animals to develop maladies that must be treated with antibiotics (which are passed on to consumers), and has led to the mutation of new strains of the E.coli virus, which sickens tens of thousands each year.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
		<link>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2009/04/27/mike-davis-on-swine-flu-capitalism/#comment-321717</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 10:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;If you wanted to create global pandemics, you&#039;d build as many of these factory farms as possible. That&#039;s why the development of swine flu isn&#039;t a surprise to those in the public health community. In 2003, the American Public Health Association--the oldest and largest in world--called for a moratorium of factory farming because they saw something like this would happen. It may take something as serious as a pandemic to make us realize the real cost of factory farming.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

-Dr. Michael Greger, Humane Society of the U.S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;If you wanted to create global pandemics, you&#8217;d build as many of these factory farms as possible. That&#8217;s why the development of swine flu isn&#8217;t a surprise to those in the public health community. In 2003, the American Public Health Association&#8211;the oldest and largest in world&#8211;called for a moratorium of factory farming because they saw something like this would happen. It may take something as serious as a pandemic to make us realize the real cost of factory farming.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>-Dr. Michael Greger, Humane Society of the U.S.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 01:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: ld</title>
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		<dc:creator>ld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 12:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of The Silent Majority (which frankly was new to me), did you see Mike Davis&#039; post-election essay &quot;Obama at Manassas&quot; in the New Left Review? Political shifts in the Sun Belt suburbs apparently play a central role in his analysis. Sorry if this was brought up earlier on this blog. http://www.newleftreview.org/?page=article&amp;view=2769</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of The Silent Majority (which frankly was new to me), did you see Mike Davis&#8217; post-election essay &#8220;Obama at Manassas&#8221; in the New Left Review? Political shifts in the Sun Belt suburbs apparently play a central role in his analysis. Sorry if this was brought up earlier on this blog. <a href="http://www.newleftreview.org/?page=article&amp;view=2769" rel="nofollow">http://www.newleftreview.org/?page=article&amp;view=2769</a></p>
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		<title>By: ld</title>
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		<dc:creator>ld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 11:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stan, thanks for your reports and reflections. They&#039;re always stimulating even when (or especially when) I respectfully disagree, and I know you don&#039;t have loads of free time on your hands. Anyway, I&#039;ll try to make time for my own response later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan, thanks for your reports and reflections. They&#8217;re always stimulating even when (or especially when) I respectfully disagree, and I know you don&#8217;t have loads of free time on your hands. Anyway, I&#8217;ll try to make time for my own response later.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 11:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>De can certainly answer for herself on this one, but I feel compelled to say something as well.  Dunbar&#039;s number, or something similar to what it purports, carries with it the implication that scale, in and of itself, can inhere with problems.  It&#039;s the point that Marx never got to.  DB suggests that when we exceed that number in our social formations -- regardless of what textual mission centers the formation -- the organization will require a layer of administration/management.

Capital accumulation is a specified subset of this dynamic.

Administration-management itself inheres with tendencies, in particular the tendency toward what De and I have called dog-waggery, and the tendency to overgrow and encrust social formations with rules instead of organic norms.  The germs of heirarchy, contract, and law are all there.

Interesting thesis from DeLanda is that the management systems adopted most widely by industry were adopted from the military.

At any rate, my own experience with ideology and practice (and I use the first term in my usual way) is that pragmatically (?), no, practically-bereft theory carries the tendency to overreach and elaborate into a complexity that exceeds the ability of a theory to account for emergent realities.  It loses its predictive value at the same time that its generalities are picked apart at the edges by local specificity.

The folks I am talking to these days -- and working with, literally, we did a labor-trade group on Sunday that made a large and beautiful garden in one couple&#039;s front yard (in some of the most compacted soil I&#039;ve seen) -- are not inchoate but searching.  That searching, however, is being done more and more intentionally as part of actual work.  Theoretical musings are not work.  And praxis includes mapping... some of these folks have mapped, geographically, demographically, historically, and economically, Northeast Central Durham to a point where the quality of their knowledge of the area approaches what we&#039;d have called in the military &quot;sound, timely, tactical intelligence.&quot;

The subject of property in this is very, very specific, as in actual property with a geographic coordinate.  And the topic of speculation is whether we can get land through land trusts and take it off the market... create some of our own facts on the ground, as it were.  This is a strategic conversation, without laying out a Strategy to which all must bend the knee.

After the garden work, people had food and beer, and we passed around books we wanted to temporarily trade.  Mine in curculation are The Power of the Machine and The Silent Majority.  We are talking about &quot;land reform&quot; and the semiotic character of money; but we are also exchanging tips on soil pH, comfrey, water catchment, blueberries, mulch, and tomatoes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>De can certainly answer for herself on this one, but I feel compelled to say something as well.  Dunbar&#8217;s number, or something similar to what it purports, carries with it the implication that scale, in and of itself, can inhere with problems.  It&#8217;s the point that Marx never got to.  DB suggests that when we exceed that number in our social formations &#8212; regardless of what textual mission centers the formation &#8212; the organization will require a layer of administration/management.</p>
<p>Capital accumulation is a specified subset of this dynamic.</p>
<p>Administration-management itself inheres with tendencies, in particular the tendency toward what De and I have called dog-waggery, and the tendency to overgrow and encrust social formations with rules instead of organic norms.  The germs of heirarchy, contract, and law are all there.</p>
<p>Interesting thesis from DeLanda is that the management systems adopted most widely by industry were adopted from the military.</p>
<p>At any rate, my own experience with ideology and practice (and I use the first term in my usual way) is that pragmatically (?), no, practically-bereft theory carries the tendency to overreach and elaborate into a complexity that exceeds the ability of a theory to account for emergent realities.  It loses its predictive value at the same time that its generalities are picked apart at the edges by local specificity.</p>
<p>The folks I am talking to these days &#8212; and working with, literally, we did a labor-trade group on Sunday that made a large and beautiful garden in one couple&#8217;s front yard (in some of the most compacted soil I&#8217;ve seen) &#8212; are not inchoate but searching.  That searching, however, is being done more and more intentionally as part of actual work.  Theoretical musings are not work.  And praxis includes mapping&#8230; some of these folks have mapped, geographically, demographically, historically, and economically, Northeast Central Durham to a point where the quality of their knowledge of the area approaches what we&#8217;d have called in the military &#8220;sound, timely, tactical intelligence.&#8221;</p>
<p>The subject of property in this is very, very specific, as in actual property with a geographic coordinate.  And the topic of speculation is whether we can get land through land trusts and take it off the market&#8230; create some of our own facts on the ground, as it were.  This is a strategic conversation, without laying out a Strategy to which all must bend the knee.</p>
<p>After the garden work, people had food and beer, and we passed around books we wanted to temporarily trade.  Mine in curculation are The Power of the Machine and The Silent Majority.  We are talking about &#8220;land reform&#8221; and the semiotic character of money; but we are also exchanging tips on soil pH, comfrey, water catchment, blueberries, mulch, and tomatoes.</p>
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		<title>By: ld</title>
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		<dc:creator>ld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 06:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gerry.Agnosia: Thanks for that ethnographic portrait of nativist survivalism. Just because we don&#039;t share corporate liberals&#039; sneering arrogance towards such types, doesn&#039;t mean that we shouldn&#039;t have our own harsh critiques of their own (to put it mildly) &quot;shortcomings.&quot; And that&#039;s the thing about the relocalization/post-carbon society &quot;movement&quot; in the US. Given the country&#039;s history of internal colonialism, its present balance of political forces, and so on, it&#039;s no surprise that there are more paranoid (white male) individualists than anarcho-communists who identify with the inchoate &quot;movement&quot; -- and that the biggest sector is made up of pragmatically-oriented but theoretically-bereft greens who are cognitively ill-equipped to even notice the political distinctions between the right-wing and the left-wing of the &quot;movement,&quot; as it were. I hazard to say that many of the greens would not have much of a clue as to why Stan&#039;s e-mailbox fills up with conspiracy crank crap, or even decode the racial undertones of that very crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerry.Agnosia: Thanks for that ethnographic portrait of nativist survivalism. Just because we don&#8217;t share corporate liberals&#8217; sneering arrogance towards such types, doesn&#8217;t mean that we shouldn&#8217;t have our own harsh critiques of their own (to put it mildly) &#8220;shortcomings.&#8221; And that&#8217;s the thing about the relocalization/post-carbon society &#8220;movement&#8221; in the US. Given the country&#8217;s history of internal colonialism, its present balance of political forces, and so on, it&#8217;s no surprise that there are more paranoid (white male) individualists than anarcho-communists who identify with the inchoate &#8220;movement&#8221; &#8212; and that the biggest sector is made up of pragmatically-oriented but theoretically-bereft greens who are cognitively ill-equipped to even notice the political distinctions between the right-wing and the left-wing of the &#8220;movement,&#8221; as it were. I hazard to say that many of the greens would not have much of a clue as to why Stan&#8217;s e-mailbox fills up with conspiracy crank crap, or even decode the racial undertones of that very crap.</p>
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		<title>By: ld</title>
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		<dc:creator>ld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 06:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deanander: So, if scale economies and large organizations are the tendential outcomes of the capital accumulation process, then why go after scale as a thing in itself, why not go after the environmental and human mediations of capital? (Sorry for sounding like a vulgar Marxist... and yes, I realize that once existing state socialism was all about enormous scale economies and hugely large organizations that were ecologically and socially disastrous and self-undermining... but capital rules the roost now, or failingly tries to do so, so it should be target of our critique.) As I tried to suggest earlier, when the focus is on scale (and technology) divorced from their property and power underpinnings, that&#039;s precisely when fuzzy analysis and weird alliances enter the picture, that&#039;s when the localization movement makes peace with hard money cranks and survivalist gun nuts and small business fantasists and the like.

Stan Moore: So what are you saying, human beings are more ethically depraved today than in the past?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deanander: So, if scale economies and large organizations are the tendential outcomes of the capital accumulation process, then why go after scale as a thing in itself, why not go after the environmental and human mediations of capital? (Sorry for sounding like a vulgar Marxist&#8230; and yes, I realize that once existing state socialism was all about enormous scale economies and hugely large organizations that were ecologically and socially disastrous and self-undermining&#8230; but capital rules the roost now, or failingly tries to do so, so it should be target of our critique.) As I tried to suggest earlier, when the focus is on scale (and technology) divorced from their property and power underpinnings, that&#8217;s precisely when fuzzy analysis and weird alliances enter the picture, that&#8217;s when the localization movement makes peace with hard money cranks and survivalist gun nuts and small business fantasists and the like.</p>
<p>Stan Moore: So what are you saying, human beings are more ethically depraved today than in the past?</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 19:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good resources page:

http://journeytoforever.org/at_link.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good resources page:</p>
<p><a href="http://journeytoforever.org/at_link.html" rel="nofollow">http://journeytoforever.org/at_link.html</a></p>
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