Why Obama & the Dems are soft-pedaling on torture

Top Pelosi Aide Learned Of Waterboarding in 2003

By Paul Kane
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, May 9, 2009

A top aide to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi attended a CIA briefing in
early 2003 in which it was made clear that waterboarding and other harsh
techniques were being used in the interrogation of an alleged al-Qaeda
operative, according to documents the CIA released to Congress on Thursday.

Pelosi has insisted that she was not directly briefed by Bush
administration officials that the practice was being actively employed.
But Michael Sheehy, a top Pelosi aide, was present for a classified
briefing that included Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.), then the ranking
minority member of the House intelligence committee, at which agency
officials discussed the use of waterboarding on terrorism suspect Abu
Zubaida.

A Democratic source acknowledged yesterday that it is almost certain
that Pelosi would have learned about the use of waterboarding from
Sheehy. Pelosi herself acknowledged in a December 2007 statement that
she was aware that Harman had learned of the waterboarding and had
objected in a letter to the CIA’s top counsel.

“It was my understanding at that time that Congresswoman Harman filed a
letter in early 2003 to the CIA to protest the use of such techniques, a
protest with which I concurred,” Pelosi said in the Dec. 9, 2007, statement.

Precisely what Pelosi learned in classified intelligence briefings she
received on interrogations has become a flash point in the battle over
the effectiveness and legality of the methods used to extract
information from alleged al-Qaeda operatives in the first years after
the 2001 terrorist attacks.

Republicans have accused Pelosi and other Democrats who attended the
earliest classified briefings of knowing what CIA operatives were doing
and offering their support for the methods, including waterboarding.
They argue that Pelosi, who served as the ranking Democrat on the House
intelligence committee until January 2003, objected only after the use
of the techniques became public several years later.

“I have every belief that either she or [Harman] were told waterboarding
was going on. I have no doubt that the Democratic leadership on this
committee in the House knew it was going on,” said Rep. Peter Hoekstra
(Mich.), who has been the top Republican on the intelligence panel since
fall 2004.

Hoekstra, who requested the history of agency briefings of members of
Congress, is also seeking notes made by the CIA during each briefing,
documents that he said last week include “a very precise accounting of
the substance of each briefing.” He said those memos would detail “not
only the specific information provided, but also the degree of
bipartisan consensus that existed with respect to the programs in question.”

In a letter to Hoekstra, CIA Director Leon Panetta said the classified
memos describing what was said at each briefing would be available at
CIA headquarters for review by congressional staff, according to an
agency official.

Although the CIA did not initiate the requests for the details of its
many briefings of members of Congress, beginning in September 2002,
senior officials have chafed at criticism of their interrogation
activities from lawmakers who, when made aware of the programs over past
years, mostly did not object. One former senior agency official, who
spoke on the condition of anonymity because the substance of the
briefings is classified, said some lawmakers, after being told of the
enhanced techniques, “questioned whether we were doing enough.”

The fierce debate was sparked three weeks ago by the release of Bush-era
Justice Department memos that expanded the legal guidelines for CIA
agents interrogating alleged al-Qaeda operatives. The new documents
released to Congress by the CIA on Thursday stated that Pelosi was
briefed on the “use of” harsh interrogation techniques in September
2002, although the documents do not state that waterboarding was mentioned.

The absence of any description in the new documents of her being briefed
on waterboarding has become a critical distinction for Pelosi. She has
said that briefers discussed waterboarding and other harsh interrogation
techniques as legal options but that they never told her such methods
were being used.

“We were not — I repeat — were not told that waterboarding or any of
these other enhanced interrogation methods were used. What they did tell
us is that they had some . . . Office of [Legal] Counsel opinions, that
they could be used, but not that they would,” she told reporters on
April 23.

A top aide reiterated that position yesterday. “The speaker was briefed
only once, in September 2002,” said spokesman Brendan Daly. “The
briefers described these techniques, said they were legal, but said that
waterboarding had not yet been used.”

Democrats contend that the issue is not what Pelosi knew and when she
knew it, but the restrictive nature of the briefings during the Bush
administration. Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), chairman of the Senate
intelligence committee, is leading a renewed effort to expand the
briefing process. In the first four years after the Sept. 11, 2001,
attacks, only the four leaders of the intelligence panels were briefed
on the most sensitive issues, and they were forbidden from discussing
what they learned with anyone else.

Pelosi’s only briefing came Sept. 4, 2002, a week before the first
anniversary of the attacks, and included then-Rep. Porter J. Goss
(R-Fla.), who at the time was chairman of the intelligence committee.
Along with their chief counsels, they were the first congressional
officials briefed on the interrogation tactics. Pelosi left the
intelligence committee in January 2003 to become the House Democratic
leader, remaining one of eight lawmakers who had the highest clearances
to access classified information.

Five months after the Pelosi-Goss meeting, in briefings for the new
leaders of the Senate intelligence committee, the CIA “described in
considerable detail . . . how the water board was used,” according to
the documents released Thursday. The next day, Feb. 5, 2003, Harman
received a similar briefing as Pelosi’s replacement as the top House
intelligence committee Democrat.

Harman was surprised at what she learned, particularly that intelligence
officials had video of the waterboarding of Abu Zubaida and were
planning on destroying it. Captured in early 2002, Abu Zubaida, whose
real name is Zayn al-Abidin Muhammed Hussein, faced months of standard
interrogations before being sent to a CIA-run facility where the harsher
techniques were used.

Harman wrote to the CIA’s general counsel on Feb. 10, 2003, to question
whether the methods “are consistent with the principles and policies of
the United States. Have enhanced techniques been authorized and approved
by the president?”

The Washington Post reported in extensive detail on Dec. 9, 2007, about
the briefings that Harman and other leaders of the intelligence
committees received in the first few years of the U.S. campaign against
terrorism. The day of the report, Pelosi issued the statement standing
by her account that she was “briefed on techniques the administration
was considering using in the future” and adding that she “concurred”
with Harman’s protest of the tactics.

Neither Pelosi nor her staff would comment on how she learned of the
techniques she now considers torture, and Harman said in an interview
that she “did not recall” discussing the issue with Pelosi. Sheehy was
Pelosi’s top aide on the intelligence committee when she served as the
ranking Democrat on that panel, and he remained her top national
security aide until he left the speaker’s office this year.

Pelosi never filed any official letter of protest, but some lawmakers
said such objections to the Bush administration at that time were pointless.

“I felt that it was minimally responsive,” Harman said of the CIA’s
response to her February 2003 letter. “It didn’t address the issue I asked.”

A bipartisan group of lawmakers says that the restrictions placed on the
intelligence committee leaders — the “Gang of Four,” which included the
chairmen and ranking members of the House and Senate panels — limited
any oversight role Congress could play. In the fall of 2005, a few other
congressional leaders, including those that controlled the CIA’s budget,
were briefed on interrogation techniques, including waterboarding. The
full House and Senate intelligence committees were not briefed on the
matter until September 2006, four years after the initial Pelosi briefing.

Unless the full committee is aware of such issues, Feinstein said in an
interview, Congress has no power to act. “I believe in it very strongly,
no equivocation at all. There must be notification for all committee
members,” Feinstein said.

But some Republicans said Democrats are now looking to cover themselves
politically for not objecting to a process that their liberal supporters
oppose. “There is a protocol for who gets briefed, depending on the
issue,” said House Minority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio). “It’s an
open forum.”

Staff writer Walter Pincus contributed to this report.

10 Comments

  1. BuddhalovesPaine:

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  2. Henry:

    Remarkable book, remarkable interviews:

    http://www.familyofsecrets.com/tag/mp3/

  3. Stan Moore:

    It is impossible for the Democrats to erase their own complicity in every phase and stage of the “War on Terror” from Sept. 11, 2001 onward. There was never a “loyal opposition” party to call for a real, independent investigation of 9/11. There was never a word of real opposition to premptive wars of aggression. The Democrats never opposed rollback of civil liberties via the Patriot Acts and they never spoke against torture, even in the abstract. Everyone knew that Khalid Sheik Mohammed would be tortured and perhaps it is a surprise that he was “only” waterboarded less than 200 times, although years have passed and he still has not been actually convicted of terrorism in any court. Torture was not used as a punishment, but as a means of gaining evidence, no matter how the method of evidence gathering taints the evidence itself. The Democrats have not stood on any sort of principle since Day One and they have no room to maneuver in belatedly expressing outrage over anything Bush and the neo-conservatives did that they did not facilitate 100%.

    Conscience does not follow elections while remaining dormant previously. Consistently conscienciously people like Daniel Ellsberg, Scott Ritter, Dennis Kucinich, and Cynthia McKinney and the like are as unsupported by Obama as they were by Bush.

    And the prospects for change you can believe in are dim and growing dimmer by the day.

    Stan Moore

  4. G.:

    Surprised?

  5. BuddhalovesPaine:

    HIP HIP HORRAY HIP HIP HORAY OPEN THE CHAMPAGNE BOTTLES! LT WATADA WILL NOT BE RETRIED!! THE NAZIS HAVE SUFFERED A SYMBOLIC DEFEAT!! GOOD NEWS LIKE THIS NEEDS TO BE REPORTED MORE OFTEN.
    Now all those that have been convicted can claim that there is unequal justice is being handed out. They should all get their convictions overturned, morally speaking. That would really burn some people asses even more.

  6. Stan:

    This story is getting legs.

  7. Stan Moore:

    Back to Obama –

    Does anyone besides me recall Obama stressing during his campaign that we did not need another four years of Bush/Cheney? I guess what he meant was that he would try for eight (not just four) more years of Bush/Cheney/Obama. Witness ongoing developments at Guantanamo.

    This is confirmed to be true so far in major aspects of foreign policy and domestic economic policy. Environmentalists rejoiced along with everyone else at the election, but now are holding their breath regarding endangered species and federally managed land management decisions as Obama has hardly turned his attention to those yet. My prediction is that endangered species protections and management of Federal lands such as Bureau of Land Management and Forest Service lands will more or less continue to duplicate Bush policies, which were disastrous.

    Stan Moore

  8. Stan Moore:

    And speaking of Guantanamo, I just saw a Pete Seeger video which included him singing the beautiful song “Guantanamera”, which is about a young peasant girl from that area of Cuba. The lyrics are so profound and so beautiful that I feel compelled to share them here, as they remind me of a world I would like to see:

    Guantanamera Lyrics
    Guantanamera is a song with lyrics that inspire, particularly the phrase, “With the poor people of this earth, I want to share my lot.”

    Yo soy un hombre sincero
    De donde crecen las palmas
    Yo soy un hombre sincero
    De donde crecen las palmas
    Y antes de morirme quiero
    Echar mis versos del alma

    (I am a truthful man,
    From the land of the palm.
    Before dying, I want to
    share these poems of my soul.)

    CHORUS (AFTER EACH VERSE):
    Guantanamera! Guajira!
    Guantanamera!
    Guantanamera! Guajira!
    Guantanamera!

    Mi verso es de un verde claro
    Y de un carmin encendido
    Mi verso es de un verde claro
    Y de un carmin encendido
    Mi verso es un ciervo herido
    Que busca en el monte amparo

    (My verses are light green,
    But they are also flaming red.
    My verses are like a wounded fawn,
    Seeking refuge in the mountain.)

    Cultivo la Rosa blanca
    En junio como en enero
    Cultivo la Rosa blanca
    En junio como en enero
    Para el amigo sincero
    Que me da su mano franca

    (I cultivate a white rose
    In June and in January
    For the sincere friend
    Who gives me his hand.)

    Y para el cruel que me arranca
    El corazon con que vivo
    Y para el cruel que me arranca
    El corazon con que vivo
    Cardo ni ortiga cultivo
    Cultivo la rosa blanca

    (And for the cruel one who would tear out
    This heart with which I live.
    I cultivate neither thistles nor nettles
    I cultivate a white rose.)

    Con los pobres de la tierra
    Quiero yo mi suerte echar
    Con los pobres de la tierra
    Quiero yo mi suerte echar
    El arroyo de la sierra
    Me complace mas que el mar

    (With the poor people of this earth,
    I want to share my lot.
    The little streams of the mountains
    Please me more than the sea.)

  9. Michael Anderson:

    The legs, no doubt, being provided by the (somewhat displaced)Cheney Regime Corporatist Alliance.

    To paraphrase Mike Ruppert….Bush Knew, Obama Knows. Vive’ La Freakin’ Difference.

    I also see that a few of the “new” pictures of the Abu Ghraib dungeon have been “leaked” to the press from somewhere, in defiance of Obama’s edict on releasing them.

    You know, since 1980 I have only voted Democrat when I felt there was no other choice. I now fully realize the meaning of something a friend of mine told me years ago while going through a 12 step program to combat alcoholism (successfully)…”there are ALWAYS alternatives”.

  10. Stan:

    This letter from Alice Walker to Obama deserves wide distribution.

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