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		<title>By: m.c.</title>
		<link>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2009/06/28/honduras-coup/#comment-340231</link>
		<dc:creator>m.c.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stuart Eizenstat is another unc-ch guy.</description>
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		<title>By: m.c.</title>
		<link>http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/index.php/2009/06/28/honduras-coup/#comment-340230</link>
		<dc:creator>m.c.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taylor Branch was on Hardball yesterday with Chris Matthews. He&#039;s Bill Clinton&#039;s court historian(and a unc-ch grad like Alex Castellanos, and Otto Reich, another matter when i&#039;m feeling less-buddha like) Branch could have been hatched out of the same egg as Bob Woodward. 

The more I see of the Clintons the more I think they are Republicans at heart. Hillary started out as a Goldwater Girl &amp; of all the big pres. candidates of &#039;08 who voted for the Iraq War is the only one not to say she was sorry. Edwards, Biden, and even Chris Dodd apologized.... 

Bill probably was in it all along for self-gratification and the girls(sending his state trooper detail to hit on girls for him, what a rush!); not to mention he&#039;s probably the most naturally gifted pol since Franklin Roosevelt. Maybe they registered as Dems, because doing a fundraiser in Hollywood/Beverly Hills was a lot more fun than doing a GOP fundraiser in Hot Springs or Galveston.

I just came across Lewis Strauss on Wiki last week. A former banker, he was Chairman of the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission from &#039;53-&#039;58 and was the driving force in the hearings where Robert Oppenheimer&#039;s security clearance was revoked. He is famously quoted as saying that electricity from atomic energy(probably fission) would be &quot;too cheap to meter.&quot; Nuclear enegy is by far the most expensive way to produce electricity counting construction, insurance, and waste storage, plus public health concerns. This makes Strauss&#039; comment one of the dumbest of the 20th Century; Does it matter which personality type on myers-briggs he was?

In full disclusure I took the myers-briggs test twice, with different results both times. On one, I was very close to the 50% percentile dividing one group, and on another within 5-10 points from the 50% percentile. So I could have been in two or even four groupings. The test is not useless imo, but it has limits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taylor Branch was on Hardball yesterday with Chris Matthews. He&#8217;s Bill Clinton&#8217;s court historian(and a unc-ch grad like Alex Castellanos, and Otto Reich, another matter when i&#8217;m feeling less-buddha like) Branch could have been hatched out of the same egg as Bob Woodward. </p>
<p>The more I see of the Clintons the more I think they are Republicans at heart. Hillary started out as a Goldwater Girl &amp; of all the big pres. candidates of &#8217;08 who voted for the Iraq War is the only one not to say she was sorry. Edwards, Biden, and even Chris Dodd apologized&#8230;. </p>
<p>Bill probably was in it all along for self-gratification and the girls(sending his state trooper detail to hit on girls for him, what a rush!); not to mention he&#8217;s probably the most naturally gifted pol since Franklin Roosevelt. Maybe they registered as Dems, because doing a fundraiser in Hollywood/Beverly Hills was a lot more fun than doing a GOP fundraiser in Hot Springs or Galveston.</p>
<p>I just came across Lewis Strauss on Wiki last week. A former banker, he was Chairman of the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission from &#8217;53-&#8217;58 and was the driving force in the hearings where Robert Oppenheimer&#8217;s security clearance was revoked. He is famously quoted as saying that electricity from atomic energy(probably fission) would be &#8220;too cheap to meter.&#8221; Nuclear enegy is by far the most expensive way to produce electricity counting construction, insurance, and waste storage, plus public health concerns. This makes Strauss&#8217; comment one of the dumbest of the 20th Century; Does it matter which personality type on myers-briggs he was?</p>
<p>In full disclusure I took the myers-briggs test twice, with different results both times. On one, I was very close to the 50% percentile dividing one group, and on another within 5-10 points from the 50% percentile. So I could have been in two or even four groupings. The test is not useless imo, but it has limits.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This A.M. from Real News----Micheletti looks a lot like Cheney (!)---but is probably a &quot;constrained&quot; leader, like Mr. O.

http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=31&amp;Itemid=74&amp;jumival=4296</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This A.M. from Real News&#8212;-Micheletti looks a lot like Cheney (!)&#8212;but is probably a &#8220;constrained&#8221; leader, like Mr. O.</p>
<p><a href="http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=31&amp;Itemid=74&amp;jumival=4296" rel="nofollow">http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=31&amp;Itemid=74&amp;jumival=4296</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kim Sky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim Sky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not read the book.  Did read a book written by the father of a friend of mine called, &quot;The Story of My Little Silver Cross&quot;.

It&#039;s quite the personal account.  The betrayal of the west was unimaginable.  Because the man survived, eventually made it to the West, admitting to making the brutal choice to abandon a family in the snow just before crossing to the other side, he became a Christian Pastor.  Concluding that the small cross his mother gave him was what saved him.

He talked of a young north korean woman student who knew about frying pans, how you toss them near the tank, the tank stops suspecting a bomb and fires, in that moment, the gal runs and places the freedomfighter&#039;s flag (red star cut out of center of national flag) on the tank, then around the corner, the tank is blow apart by its own countrymen.

Otherwise the book is so politically incorrect that it never received large distribution, published in 1986, he begins the book with, &quot;This story is dedicated to my beloved white, Anglo-Saxon, Christian brothers and sisters, who live today, as citizens by birth, of this once-so-great nation, America.&quot;

Anyway, was an excellent first hand account.  

Thanx for the suggestion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not read the book.  Did read a book written by the father of a friend of mine called, &#8220;The Story of My Little Silver Cross&#8221;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s quite the personal account.  The betrayal of the west was unimaginable.  Because the man survived, eventually made it to the West, admitting to making the brutal choice to abandon a family in the snow just before crossing to the other side, he became a Christian Pastor.  Concluding that the small cross his mother gave him was what saved him.</p>
<p>He talked of a young north korean woman student who knew about frying pans, how you toss them near the tank, the tank stops suspecting a bomb and fires, in that moment, the gal runs and places the freedomfighter&#8217;s flag (red star cut out of center of national flag) on the tank, then around the corner, the tank is blow apart by its own countrymen.</p>
<p>Otherwise the book is so politically incorrect that it never received large distribution, published in 1986, he begins the book with, &#8220;This story is dedicated to my beloved white, Anglo-Saxon, Christian brothers and sisters, who live today, as citizens by birth, of this once-so-great nation, America.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyway, was an excellent first hand account.  </p>
<p>Thanx for the suggestion.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt Kastens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt Kastens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was 12 or 13 years old I read the book Bridge at Andau.  It is an account of the 1956 Hungarian Uprising.
There was an account in the book which took place near the beginning of the uprising.  Hungarian soldiers, or perhaps communist party secret police were ordered to fire on demonstrators.  Well they did.  Except for one who turned his weapon on the other soldiers or police.  That was the first act of mutiny.  This Honduran situation seems very similar.  It puzzles me how people who are supposed to protect the innocent can be so slow to understand what they are really doing.  But I guess that I am being stupid.  How many people have read the Bridge at Andau and learned anything useful from it if they have? That book on the 48 rules of manipulation is going on my must reading list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was 12 or 13 years old I read the book Bridge at Andau.  It is an account of the 1956 Hungarian Uprising.<br />
There was an account in the book which took place near the beginning of the uprising.  Hungarian soldiers, or perhaps communist party secret police were ordered to fire on demonstrators.  Well they did.  Except for one who turned his weapon on the other soldiers or police.  That was the first act of mutiny.  This Honduran situation seems very similar.  It puzzles me how people who are supposed to protect the innocent can be so slow to understand what they are really doing.  But I guess that I am being stupid.  How many people have read the Bridge at Andau and learned anything useful from it if they have? That book on the 48 rules of manipulation is going on my must reading list.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That piece from Laura Carlson suggested to me that the de facto Honduran Govt is being bankrolled and supplied by external nations -- IMO probably the USA, UK and Israel.  I find it unlikely that the Honduran Govt would have such high-tech weaponry/devices without such external help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That piece from Laura Carlson suggested to me that the de facto Honduran Govt is being bankrolled and supplied by external nations &#8212; IMO probably the USA, UK and Israel.  I find it unlikely that the Honduran Govt would have such high-tech weaponry/devices without such external help.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.counterpunch.org/carlsen09282009.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s one today from Laura Carlson&lt;/a&gt; on the de facto Honduran government&#039;s antics with the Brazilian Embassy...

...and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW1_4Dg450c&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this 11 minute youtube video&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.counterpunch.org/carlsen09282009.html" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s one today from Laura Carlson</a> on the de facto Honduran government&#8217;s antics with the Brazilian Embassy&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW1_4Dg450c" rel="nofollow">this 11 minute youtube video</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: m.c.</title>
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		<dc:creator>m.c.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look up Michael Froman on wiki. He&#039;s the dep. natl. sec. advisor for economic affairs. A HLS buddy of Obama&#039;s who worked as Rubin&#039;s CoS at Treasury and later introduced Rubin to Obama. 

I keep tellin&#039; folks that D.C.&#039;s a small town where who you know counts 10x what you know....   :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look up Michael Froman on wiki. He&#8217;s the dep. natl. sec. advisor for economic affairs. A HLS buddy of Obama&#8217;s who worked as Rubin&#8217;s CoS at Treasury and later introduced Rubin to Obama. </p>
<p>I keep tellin&#8217; folks that D.C.&#8217;s a small town where who you know counts 10x what you know&#8230;.   <img src='http://www.feralscholar.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: m.c.</title>
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		<dc:creator>m.c.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 23:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Health Care/Medical/Insurance Economy is ~$900 billion a year. In a country with 300 million people, that&#039;s roughly $3,000 per person. The powers-that-be won&#039;t give that up without a hard fight.

A little dot connecting:

The Treasury Sec. is a former aide to Bob Rubin, worked for Kissinger and the NY Fed, and protege of Larry Summers. 

The Non-Partisan/Objective(?) Congressional Budget Office is currently headed by Douglas Elmendorf. Besides working at the Fed he is also a protege of Summers and Martin Feldstein(they were on his doctoral dissertation committee at harvard), a top economic advisor in the Reagan Administration.  You think they return each other&#039;s phone calls....   The more things change the more they stay the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Health Care/Medical/Insurance Economy is ~$900 billion a year. In a country with 300 million people, that&#8217;s roughly $3,000 per person. The powers-that-be won&#8217;t give that up without a hard fight.</p>
<p>A little dot connecting:</p>
<p>The Treasury Sec. is a former aide to Bob Rubin, worked for Kissinger and the NY Fed, and protege of Larry Summers. </p>
<p>The Non-Partisan/Objective(?) Congressional Budget Office is currently headed by Douglas Elmendorf. Besides working at the Fed he is also a protege of Summers and Martin Feldstein(they were on his doctoral dissertation committee at harvard), a top economic advisor in the Reagan Administration.  You think they return each other&#8217;s phone calls&#8230;.   The more things change the more they stay the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya see!

This health care thing -- and I&#039;ve kept my distance so far -- is horseshit from beginning to end.  It&#039;s a gift to insurance companies, and an unfunded mandate on the poor.  In fact, there is a poverty tax implicit in fining those who refuse to buy insurance.  This plan deserves to go down in flames, imho.  Damn their political careers to hell.

Meanwhile, there is an amplification of this covert shit, Honduras, Pakistan.  This administra&lt;i&gt;tion&lt;/i&gt; is being administ&lt;i&gt;ered&lt;/i&gt; by people who are every bit as irresponsible and reckless as Bush II, albeit in different ways (can&#039;t make the same mistakes twice, so we have to make newer, dumber ones).

I share Giordana&#039;s reaction to the Clintons; they represent a pure form of cold, political cynicism.  Dr. Faustus &amp; Dr. Faustus.  Someone should write a Marlowesque play.

It&#039;s seldom as venally financial as we think at that level, I&#039;m betting; though you gotta have the money to operate, so you gotta keep the money people close.  This political culture that replaced the crazed culture of Bush II is more deeply disturbing and unstable than money -- it&#039;s the addiction of naked ambition.  They are utterly possessed by it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya see!</p>
<p>This health care thing &#8212; and I&#8217;ve kept my distance so far &#8212; is horseshit from beginning to end.  It&#8217;s a gift to insurance companies, and an unfunded mandate on the poor.  In fact, there is a poverty tax implicit in fining those who refuse to buy insurance.  This plan deserves to go down in flames, imho.  Damn their political careers to hell.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, there is an amplification of this covert shit, Honduras, Pakistan.  This administra<i>tion</i> is being administ<i>ered</i> by people who are every bit as irresponsible and reckless as Bush II, albeit in different ways (can&#8217;t make the same mistakes twice, so we have to make newer, dumber ones).</p>
<p>I share Giordana&#8217;s reaction to the Clintons; they represent a pure form of cold, political cynicism.  Dr. Faustus &#038; Dr. Faustus.  Someone should write a Marlowesque play.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s seldom as venally financial as we think at that level, I&#8217;m betting; though you gotta have the money to operate, so you gotta keep the money people close.  This political culture that replaced the crazed culture of Bush II is more deeply disturbing and unstable than money &#8212; it&#8217;s the addiction of naked ambition.  They are utterly possessed by it.</p>
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