Wikileaks does it again!

God bless ‘em. This is what disobedience looks like, and why we need more of it.

US authorities have known for weeks that they have suffered a haemorrhage of secret information on a scale which makes even the leaking of the Pentagon Papers during the Vietnam war look limited by comparison.

The Afghan war logs, from which the Guardian reports today, consist of 92,201 internal records of actions by the US military in Afghanistan between January 2004 and December 2009 – threat reports from intelligence agencies, plans and accounts of coalition operations, descriptions of enemy attacks and roadside bombs, records of meetings with local politicians, most of them classified secret.

The Guardian’s source for these is Wikileaks, the website which specialises in publishing untraceable material from whistleblowers, which is simultaneously publishing raw material from the logs.

Washington fears it may have lost even more highly sensitive material including an archive of tens of thousands of cable messages sent by US embassies around the world, reflecting arms deals, trade talks, secret meetings and uncensored opinion of other governments.

FULL

As of this AM, I can’t get wikileaks to open. Not sure what happened, but if anyone knows how to pull down these docs and cache them, it would be a public service for as many people as possible to do so, so these docs can never be reeled back in.

37 Comments

  1. Winston Warfield:

    Jesus, this is huge. This strikes at the heart of the imperial, gangster nation-state system, lifts the veil from all the twisted criminality which passes for “international relations” in this New World Dystopia. Vindicates all of what we former robocops in the employ of the Deathstar (that is, we Veterans for Peace) have been trying to push through the smothering blanket of de-legitimacy and marginalization. And it is, once again, soldiers who have never abandoned their conscience, who have driven a stake into the eye of the Beast. God bless them. Makes me want to weep with the weight of it. Moral redemption is a force which even the black arts of state repression cannot overcome forever.

  2. Susan/catlady:

    Assange: The most dangerous men are those who are in charge of war. And they need to be stopped. If that makes me dangerous in their eyes, so be it.

    Interview with Spiegel

  3. Susan/catlady:

    I don’t think my link was included:
    http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/07/26-0

  4. Robert Fischer:

    If Wikileaks ever comes back from where-ever it’s gone, I’ll be caching it.

  5. skol:

    Their servers are swamped, is all. I don’t think anyone else is in possession of a full mirror – the stuff at the Guardian et al is heavily redacted.

    And there are apparently 16,000 more reports to come, but WL is guarding those for the moment.

  6. skol:

    here’s the dump, btw:

    leakmirror.wikileaks.org/file/straw-glass-and-bottle/afg-war-diary.html.7z

  7. Myrisa:

    http://wardiary.wikileaks.org/

  8. Michael Anderson:

    Wiki is up again, with links. I’ll bet they got overwhelmed. I would hope that (I know, hope is for the examples, right?) the availability of this data here in Bedrock to the Flintstones, Rubbles, and Rockheads (SWMMC) will show them what their sons and daughters are up to, and the conditioning that makes them join up and then come home as broken, violent, dangerous automatons instead of humans, and that the cost of their Wal-Mart food and GMC Denali are externalized, at least in ONE place—Afghanistan—and countless others. I would hope that it will show people who didn’t think about it before to become curious about the danger and futility of aggression, power, sex, and money: and how small our world is, and why we need to ACT OUT PEACE in a myriad of ways—despite the odds–and they are steep…ask that fellow in 1st-century Palestine.

    The other polarity we need to be prepared for will be violent backlash orchestrated by Faux News, the NRA, Tea Party, Palin, et al…although, strangely enough, at this early date I see no mention of it on Free Republic or Red State…I would think it would be a four-alarmer for those Orcs. Give them time…

  9. Stan:

    Thanks all.

    -the Pretechnical Primate

  10. Stan:

    I find myself in awe of the source(s). What a fearsome thing this must have been; and what fearful consequences may still be in store. I pray for their protection.

  11. Uncle $cam:

    http://www.propublica.org/article/why-wikileaks-war-logs-are-no-pentagon-papers

    ProPublica: Why Wikileaks’ War Logs Are No Pentagon Papers

    A quick summary:

    1) Not as historically significant; no major revelations not previously reported in some form, although these previous reports were in many cases ignored by the public (although not by those of us here on MeFi who’ve been ranting about Pakistan’s double-dealings to anyone who would listen since at least as far back as 2006).

    2) Pentagon Papers revealed that the Johnson administration and other administrations dating all the way back to Truman had knowingly lied to the public on a number of key issues, including in denials of involvement in a 1963 coup against South Vietnamese premier Ngo Dinh Diem and active plans to escalate American military engagement in the conflict even prior to the Gulf of Tonkin Incident.

    3) Pentagon Papers revealed a top-down view of the war, from the level of policy maker’s (where most devastating secrets were kept) down to the level of the troops on the ground; this leak provides the opposite view, consisting in ground-level intelligence reports.

    I wish someone would leak a massive document dump on the secrets of the war at home:

    ‘Pay czar lets bankers off with bonuses’
    http://www.suntimes.com/business/2529366,CST-NWS-payczar24.article

    I sd it over at lespeakeasy, I’m not completely 100% trusting of Julian Assange or wikileaks. I have watched psyop work for over two decades, and the good ol boy network would say something to the effect of, what better than owning one team, than owning the team that comes up against them. Between the 22 some odd families that run the world. I very easily envision a cabal methodically controlling even the leaks and secret think tanks accessing the normalization of full spectrum dominance where the collective of humanity suffers learned helplessness on the scale of massive ptsd and how that can be manipulated overtly and with all the money we give them, covertly. I’m thinking along the lines of an Edward Louis Bernays psyop project.

  12. cabdriver:

    It appears to be a revolt of the guards. What we need more of.

    I’m personally of the mind that a principal reason (unspoken, covert) for the massive expansion in the security state is to enable watching the watchers- to nullify and neutralize whistleblowers and honest guardians of ethical and open government, lest they get their stories together and pull the veil away from the criminal ambitions and workings of the imperialists and the militarists, and their apparatus of control.

    The only answer to that is to swarm them.

  13. Stan:

    @ $cam, there are a couple of us with experience here in the military/psyops world. This kind of paranoia-mongering vastly overestimates the capacity of that establishment; its real power is not covert, but available to watch… its absolute ideological hegemony, consolidated not with Hollywood-like conspiracies, but with prime time tv. I love it how no matter how significant or courageous anyone’s actions are, there’s always someone to play the role of denigrater and accuser.

  14. Marcilla Elizabeth Smith:

    Less the PTSD of some horror movie quality spectre-from-nowhere and more the mundane Stockholm Syndrome the family of an abusive father faces. He’s not supernatural, powerful, or particularly clever. He just builds confidence with each abuse which is tolerated.

    I was telling my partner today, dealing with the City gubbermint here in Orlando (who has banned sharing food in public parks downtown in order to discourage poor people from using public facilities) is like dealing with a two year old with a flame-thrower. It would be only pathetic if they didn’t wield such an inordinate amount of power. The real grown-ups are just trying to get food to people who are hungry, while big baby government whines about how it can’t do its chores. Gives all the adorable, actual infants a bad name. (Off topic, but we had the sweetest little 4 month old protester with Food Not Bombs in front of City Hall yesterday).

  15. Robert Fischer:

    You can see my mirror at:

    http://wikileaks.enfranchisedmind.com/

  16. Michael Anderson:

    @ skol:

    Thanks for the dump link. Even though many of us will never get through much of this, the records must be preserved and passed on as a lesson to our children and grandchildren.

    @ Stan:

    Yes, we should pray for their protection. I believe Wikileaks’ founder will be a target (and knows it); if not a direct hit job by the Private Contractor Orcs, then a very public arrest, kangaroo trial, and institutional disappearing act—you pick.

    PS—if you’re a pretechnical primate, then I’m a Cello player!

  17. Winston Warfield:

    There seems to be a widespread effort, replicated even in the left blogosphere (Counterpunch, Mother Jones), to downplay the signifigance of this leak. It is based on the traditional journalistic notion that something that is not “new”, isn’t news. Partly the MSM and Democratic Party are scrambling to counter its import by minimization, a classic propaganda technique. Partly, they are all looking in the wrong place, and fail to see the importance of MILITARY RESISTANCE, which is at the root of these revelations. This was also true during the Vietnam era. G.I. resistance was often invisible, often covered up in the media, and misunderstood or feared by the civilian side of the antiwar movement because such resistance was raw and struck at the jugular of state violence. We are seeing similar responses to these Wikileaks. It may be so that the revelations are not freighted with drama, as were the Pentagon Papers, but what is important is the picture they paint in toto of a failed, corrupt, collapsing counterinsurgency as experienced by its participants, both perpetrators and victims. Credibility is a battlefront, and this battle has already been won in the first hours by courageous soldiers and Wikileaks. It’s the New Journalism.

  18. Stan:

    Washington’s spin machine is in overdrive to counter the massive leak of documents on Afghanistan. Much of the counterattack revolves around the theme that the documents aren’t particularly relevant to this year’s new-and-improved war effort.

    The White House seized on the timeframe of the documents released by WikiLeaks. “The period of time covered in these documents (January 2004-December 2009) is before the President announced his new strategy,” a White House email told reporters on Sunday evening. “Some of the disconcerting things reported are exactly why the President ordered a three month policy review and a change in strategy.”

    FULL

  19. Stan:

    The brutality and fecklessness of the U.S.-led war in Afghanistan have been laid bare in an indisputable way just days before the House of Representatives is scheduled to vote on whether to throw $33.5 billion more into the Afghan quagmire, when that money is badly needed at home.

    On Sunday, the Web site Wikileaks posted 75,000 reports written mostly by U.S. forces in Afghanistan during a six-year period from January 2004 to December 2009. The authenticity of the material – published under the title “Afghan War Diaries” – is not in doubt.

    FULL

  20. skol:

    re: “bad apples”, on the 2007 footage:

    WikiLeaks in Baghdad:

    Now three former soldiers from this unit have come forward to make the case that the incident is not a matter of a few bad-apple soldiers but rather just one example of US military protocol in the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan, where excessive acts of violence often stem from the chain of command. This comes at a time when the top brass in Afghanistan are speaking openly of relaxing the rules of engagement. After Gen. Stanley McChrystal’s recent ouster for publicly criticizing the Obama administration, his successor, Gen. David Petraeus, has asserted that military protocol in Afghanistan should be adjusted because of “concerns” about “the application of our rules of engagement,” a move that critics fear will cause civilian deaths to skyrocket.

  21. Uncle $cam:

    John Young on Assange, “Working Media Like Madoff”

    Alex talks with John Young of Cryptome, a website that acts as a repository for information about freedom of speech, cryptography, spying, surveillance, and documents for publication that are prohibited by governments worldwide. John and Alex discuss the recent release of 92,000 classified documents on the war in Afghanistan by the renegade website WikiLeaks. The documents show how Pakistan’s military spy service has for years guided the Afghan insurgency.

    John Young: Wikileaks War Logs Show Global Intelligence Facade Of ‘War On Terror’ Alex Jones Tv 2/2

    I love it how no matter how significant or courageous anyone’s actions are, there’s always someone to play the role of denigrater and accuser.

    Inever accused

  22. Michael Anderson:

    A link to Real News:

    http://www.therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=33&Itemid=74&jumival=588

    The REAL “damage” of Wikileaks’ leaks (poor, poor Bob Gates and Mike Mullen!) is that they show EXACTLY what we are up to, as far as the “Great Game” goes. This 3-part interview gives a good slice of history on the area, in relation to the leaks.

    What was the quote about war being how Americans learn geography?? Well, then LEARN, dammit!

    Oh, but, wait–we really just wanted to go back to sleep, didn’t we?

  23. Marat:

    http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2010/07/28/war-against-iran-more-likely—thanks-to-wikileaks/

  24. Curt:

    Marat,
    The Iranian view is so totally not unreasonable. I live in an area filled with old bunkers from the German Siegfried Line. They were officially built to defend Germany from an attack mounted from the west. They could have been used for that. But some of the bunkers seem to have been built for a much different purpose. It has been explained that these large non fighting bunkers were built so that a large number of soldiers could hold up in these facilities during an artillary barrage and then race out after the barrage lifted and meet an invading army. The thing is these bunkers were built too close to the border to really serve this purpose. A much more likely puropose was to use them as ammo supply points for an army moving westward, or perhaps a headquarters, for an advancing army.

  25. purple:

    Another aspect of wikileaks is that the ruling class is no longer capturing a good portion of the ‘best and brightest’ . Assange himself attacked the militarization of the hard sciences in his article “on the take and loving it”. Assange is Phd in Physics and Math, obviously he could have choose an route of easy money, high official rank and the like, but chose not too. Why not ? Because the deep corruption and violence of the ruling class is disgusting and good percentage of educated people who have a soul.
    The basic fact is, a handful of volunteers has so far outsmarted the most fearsome and ruthless organization on the planet, the Pentagon.

  26. Steve:

    Hidden Intelligence Operation Behind the Wikileaks Release of “Secret” Documents?

    By F. William Engdahl

    Global Research, August 11, 2010

    Since the dramatic release of a US military film of a US airborne shooting of unarmed journalists in Iraq, Wiki-Leaks has gained global notoreity and credibility as a daring website that releases sensitive material to the public from whistleblowers within various governments. Their latest “coup” involved alleged leak of thousands of pages of supposedly sensitive documents regarding US informers within the Taliban in Afghanistan and their ties to senior people linked to Pakistan’s ISI military intelligence. The evidence suggests however that far from an honest leak, it is a calculated disinformation to the gain of the US and perhaps Israeli and Indian intelligence and a coverup of the US and Western role in drug trafficking out of Afghanistan.

    Since the posting of the Afghan documents some days ago the Obama White House has given the leaks credibility by claiming further leaks pose a threat to US national security. Yet details of the papers reveals little that is sensitive. The one figure most prominently mentioned, General (Retired) Hamid Gul, former head of the Pakistani military intelligence agency, ISI, is the man who during the 1980’s coordinated the CIA-financed Mujahideen guerilla war in Afghanistan against the Soviet regime there. In the latest Wikileaks documents, Gul is accused of regularly meeting Al Qaeda and Taliban leading people and orchestrating suicide attacks on NATO forces in Afghanistan.

    The leaked documents also claim that Osama bin Laden, who was reported dead three years ago by the late Pakistan candidate Benazir Bhutto on BBC, was still alive, conveniently keeping the myth alove for the Obama Administration War on Terror at a point when most Americans had forgotten the original reason the Bush Administration allegedly invaded Afghanistan to pursue the Saudi Bin Laden for the 9/11 attacks.

    Demonizing Pakistan?

    The naming of Gul today as a key liaison to the Afghan “Taliban” forms part of a larger pattern of US and British recent efforts to demonize the current Pakistan regime as a key part of the problems in Afghanistan. Such a demonization greatly boosts the position of recent US military ally, India. Furthermore, Pakistan is the only muslim country possessing atomic weapons. The Israeli Defense Forces and the Israeli Mossad intelligence agency reportedly would very much like to change that. A phoney campaign against the politically outspoken Gul via Wikileaks could be part of that geopolitical effort.

    The London Financial Times says Gul’s name appears in about 10 of roughly 180 classified US files that allege Pakistan’s intelligence service supported Afghan militants fighting Nato forces. Gul told the newspaper the US has lost the war in Afghanistan, and that the leak of the documents would help the Obama administration deflect blame by suggesting that Pakistan was responsible. Gul told the paper, “I am a very favourite whipping boy of America. They can’t imagine the Afghans can win wars on their own. It would be an abiding shame that a 74-year-old general living a retired life manipulating the Mujahedeen in Afghanistan results in the defeat of America.”

    Notable, in light of the latest Afghan Wikileaks documents, is the spotlight on the 74-year-old Gul. As I wrote in a previous piece, Warum Afghanistan? Teil VI:Washingtons Kriegsstrategie in Zentralasien, published this June on this website, Gul has been outspoken about the role of the US military in smuggling Afghan heroin out of the country via the top-security Manas Air Base in Kyrgyzstan.

    As well, in a UPI interview on September 26, 2001, two weeks after the 9-11 attacks, Gul stated, in reply to the question who did Black Sept. 11?, “Mossad and its accomplices. The US spends $40 billion a year on its 11 intelligence agencies. That’s $400 billion in 10 years. Yet the Bush Administration says it was taken by surprise. I don’t believe it. Within 10 minutes of the second twin tower being hit in the World Trade Center CNN said Osama bin Laden had done it. That was a planned piece of disinformation by the real perpetrators…” [1] Gul is clearly not well liked in Washington. He claims his request for travel visas to the UK and to the USA have repeatedly been denied. Making Gul into the arch enemy would suit some in Washington nicely.

    Who is Julian Assange?

    Wikileaks founder and “Editor-in-chief”, Julian Assange, is a mysterious 29-year-old Australian about whom little is known. He has suddenly become a prominent public figure offering to mediate with the White House over the leaks. Following the latest leaks, Assange told Der Spiegel, one of three outlets with which he shared material from the most recent leak, that the documents he had unearthed would “change our perspective on not only the war in Afghanistan, but on all modern wars.” He stated in the same interview that ‘”I enjoy crushing bastards.” Wikileaks, founded in 2006 by Assange, has no fixed home and Assange claims he “lives in airports these days.”

    Yet a closer examination of the public position of Assange on one of the most controversial issues of recent decades, the forces behind the September 11, 2001 attacks on the Pentagon and World Trade Center shows him to be curiously establishment. When the Belfast Telegraph interviewed him on July 19, he stated,

    “Any time people with power plan in secret, they are conducting a conspiracy. So there are conspiracies everywhere. There are also crazed conspiracy theories. It’s important not to confuse these two….” What about 9/11?: “I’m constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud.” What about the Bilderberg Conference?: “That is vaguely conspiratorial, in a networking sense. We have published their meeting notes.” [2]

    That statement from a person who has built a reputation of being anti-establishment is more than notable. First, as thousands of physicists, engineers, military professionals and airline pilots have testified, the idea that 19 barely-trained Arabs armed with box-cutters could divert four US commercial jets and execute the near-impossible strikes on the Twin Towers and Pentagon over a time period of 93 minutes with not one Air Force NORAD military interception, is beyond belief. Precisely who executed the professional attack is a matter for genuine unbiased international inquiry.

    Notable for Mr Assange’s blunt denial of any sinister 9/11 conspiracy is the statement in a BBC interview by former US Senator, Bob Graham, who chaired the United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence when it performed its Joint Inquiry into 9/11. Graham told BBC, “I can just state that within 9/11 there are too many secrets, that is information that has not been made available to the public for which there are specific tangible credible answers and that that withholding of those secrets has eroded public confidence in their government as it relates to their own security.” BBC narrator: “Senator Graham found that the cover-up led to the heart of the administration.” Bob Graham: “I called the White House and talked with Ms. Rice and said, ‘Look, we’ve been told we’re gonna get cooperation in this inquiry, and she said she’d look into it, and nothing happened.’”

    Of course, the Bush Administration was able to use the 9/11 attacks to launch its War on Terrorism in Afghanistan and then Iraq, a point Assange conveniently omits.

    For his part, General Gul claims that US intelligence orchestrated the Wikileaks on Afghanistan to find a scapegoat, Gul, to blame. Conveniently, as if on cue, British Conservative Prime Minister David Cameron, on a state visit to India, lashed out at the alleged role of Pakistan in supporting Taliban in Afghanistan, conveniently lending further credibility to the Wikileaks story. The real story of Wikileaks has clearly not yet been told.

    Notes

    [1] General Hamid Gul, Arnaud de Borchgrave 2001 Interview with Hamid Gul, Former ISI Chief, UPI, reprinted July 2010 on http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/07/28/arnaud-de-borchgrave-2001-interview-with-hamid-gul-former-isi-chief/

    [2] Julian Assange, Interview in Belfast Telegraph, July 19, 2010.

  27. Stan:

    Better to cut and link, eh?

    Personal opinion: this is a bigger stretch than biotic oil, another chimera that Engdahl has chased. Really wish I could make clear how not competent the people in the government are to put together something this complex, and how not willing they are to take that kind of risk (reading in too many people on a covert op increases the chance that one of them wil blow the whistle.

    Engdahl has thrown in with Chussodovsky and them over at Globalization Research (Canada iirc), where Russophilia tends to bend their analysis overfar sometimes.

    Poor Assange, he’s got the government running around the world trying to find a way to arrest him; and he’s got people here saying he’s a government agent. No good deed shall go unpunished.

    Some of the ISI’s Taliban sympathies are not news. People were writing – and warning – about it since 9-11. That’s not demonizing Pakistan. They tried at least twice to bump off Musharraf.

    What makes Assange suspect? He doesn’t buy the 9-11 conspiracy theory that it was a false flag op. I guess I’m suspect, too, then.

  28. Ramsey:

    Re: “Really wish I could make clear how not competent the people in the government are to put together something this complex, and how not willing they are to take that kind of risk (reading in too many people on a covert op increases the chance that one of them wil blow the whistle.”

    Very good point. As for 9-11, however, I think the standard gov’t explanation leaves a lot to be desired (men with only boxcutters, etc.), to say the least; which of course doesn’t imply that the event was a “false flag” operation either. The least that can be said is that the event required some serious planning on the one hand, and some serious oversights and omissions on the other–all insufficiently unexplained.

  29. Stan:

    Piece over at CP today on Wikileaks, pretty interesting stuff on street mythology re technology and politics.

    The real power of Wikileaks is not so much the technology (it helps, but there are millions of websites out there) but the trust readers have in the authenticity of what they are reading; they believe that those working at Wikileaks stand behind the veracity of the material. There are literally hundreds of videos on YouTube from Iraq and Afghanistan showing coalition forces engaged in questionable, and in some cases obviously illegal, acts of aggression. Yet none of these clips have had anything like the impact of the single video posted to Wikileaks showing scores of civilians (and two Reuters journalists) gunned down by high-powered aircraft artillery in a Baghdad suburb. Why? Because while complete openness might be attractive in theory, information is only as valuable as its reliability, and Wikileaks has an organisational review structure in place that Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and most blogs (for obvious reasons) do not. All social media are not created equal, and so their power is far from equal.

    FULL

  30. Stan:

    “At the heart of the death of journalism myth (and that of the role of social media) is the presumption of a causal relationship between access to information and democratic change.” linked above

  31. Stan:

    Tarik Ali – It’s no secret. The ISI and the Taliban.

  32. Henry:

    Didn’t know where to put this, but it is interesting:

    An ocean of discontent :

    Christopher Meakin examines how the global politics of the Indian Ocean might now evolve – to the West’s huge disadvantage.

    –oo0oo–

    Over the weekend (on Sunday 1 August) it was reported that Chinese archaeologists from Beijing University are looking for tangible evidence showing that Africa was originally ‘found’ by the Chinese back in 1418 AD, several decades before Europe’s Vasco de Gama arrived.

    Pliant African politicians are already hailing the effort as a new era of African-Chinese co-operation. The following article suggests there could be rather more to that archaeological investigation than simple academic curiosity.

    Although China is a very large country it does have a population of a billion and a half, and an increasingly desperate shortage of even basic natural resources such as clean water. It is also now extremely rich and potentially powerful. So we might as well all face up to it. Some 21st century Chinese variant of Hitler’s ‘lebensraum’ strategy is now very much on the cards, sooner or later.

    The profound implications of all that, for everything from the future rôle of the British Commonwealth, to diplomatic charm offensives in the dark continent, to defence planning in the current cash-strapped defence review, should certainly not be lost on Whitehall. But they probably will.

    Look at the global picture, not from the perspective of 20th century London, but from the perspective of 21st century Beijing. If China could win control of the huge continent of Africa, with its relatively low levels of population and huge concentrations of natural resources, its future status as the dominant world power of 2100 AD would become unstoppable.

    Huge swathes of territory, all the food, hydro-electric energy, mineral resources – everything China currently needs is all neatly packaged in one convenient and defendable location. All that stands in its way is the Indian ocean…

    More:

    http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/gang8/message/15200

  33. ld:

    Engdahl quotes Assange saying…

    “Any time people with power plan in secret, they are conducting a conspiracy. So there are conspiracies everywhere. There are also crazed conspiracy theories. It’s important not to confuse these two….” What about 9/11?: “I’m constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud.” What about the Bilderberg Conference?: “That is vaguely conspiratorial, in a networking sense. We have published their meeting notes.”

    …which he then furnishes as evidence that Assange is an establishmentarian?!? To me, Assange sounds like nothing other than an eminently rational leftist. What a sad helping of hokum Engdahl has served up. I’ve come to read him with a jaundiced eye, but this is ridiculous.

  34. Marcilla Elizabeth Smith:

    Most of us here know the name Julian Assange and possibly Bradley Manning. If Wikileaks is practicing transparency, horizontalism, etc., who are some other well known wikileaks activists?

    This is not to say that Mr. Assange gets a paycheck from the CIA any more than Dick Cheney shot the Pentagon with a missile on 9/11, only to express reservations and more importantly *why*. What is the reason to deny information to even a government investigation? The authorities are the ones who are always so quick to say “if you don’t have anything to hide, then you shouldn’t mind the intrusion.” But what’s good for the goose apparently ain’t palatable to the gander in this case.

    The real conspiracy is what I call the “conspiracy of denial.” It’s how every person within the system finds ways to justify their own role (from peon to president to oligarch) by shifting responsibility elsewhere. In what way *was* I responsible for 9/11, or the Apache shootings, or the BP blowout? When I can answer those things, I can resist the US invasion of Iran.

    And just to say one thing about the CP article, what’s with the denying of the decline of the nation-state? Even US military analysts have said this since before the fall of the Soviet Union.

  35. Stan:

    On July 25 WikiLeaks published its massive cache of classified documents on the war in Afghanistan. Four days later, Time magazine posted on its website its August 9 cover story, featuring a horrifying image of a beautiful young Afghan woman named Aisha with a gaping hole where her nose once was, under the headline “What Happens if We Leave Afghanistan”-echoing the strategy laid out in the Red Cell report [see Ann Jones, "Our Afghan Demons," page 4].

    These two media events unfolded in starkly different ways. While Time has been praised for telling Aisha’s story, WikiLeaks has been characterized as a criminal syndicate with blood on its hands. Former Bush administration speechwriter Marc Thiessen called for the United States to use whatever means necessary to snatch WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, including rendering him from abroad. Others have called for the United States to shut down WikiLeaks and prosecute its members. Michigan Republican Congressman Mike Rogers has called for the alleged leaker, 22-year-old Army intelligence analyst Bradley Manning, to be executed if he is convicted.

    FULL

  36. latte lenya:

    I’m afraid I can’t figure out how to post a link but there’s a wonderful op-ed piece in today’s LA Times by Lt. Gen. William Astore “Every Soldier a Hero? Hardly”
    Worth reading.

  37. Michael Anderson:

    The first round, most likely courtesy of the CIA—Kill the messenger…

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/aug/22/wikileaks-julian-assange-sweden

    WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange in web furore over Swedish rape claim

    • Allegation apparently leaked to press by police
    • Story garners 1m hits before prosecutor steps in

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